re: Martin Scorsese Doesn't Think Marvel Movies Are Cinema (updated)

There's a reason why nerd culture was ostracized and kept in the back room for so many decades.

The culture is filled to the brim with beta males who pollute the masses with their BS inclinations.

It was pretty inspirational when Cap picked up that hammer, Coppola, you prick.

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that CGI characters in tights flying around blasting magic at each other while making snarky quips is "deep cinema."

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No one Is saying that

I agree with most of their criticism. I would just say it’s a lower tier cinema instead of it not being cinema at all

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How without Netflix it wouldn’t have been made. He says the movie studios won’t do movies like that anymore.

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I’m definitely glad it’s being made, but did he leave out the part about it costing $160MM? That’s a high price for any studio to pay for a mob movie

If Scorsese wants to point fingers at why studios don’t give out $160m budgets to films with a questionable return, he will see fingers pointing back at himself along with Coppola, Michael Cimino, Stephen Spielberg, and a number of other “New Hollywood” directors who were given big budgets and blew it on films that bombed like New York New York, One From The Heart, Heaven’s Gate, 1941, etc.

At the same time, he will also see fingers pointed at Lucas, Spielberg, and others who pretty much created the summer blockbuster. Summer blockbusters are what keep the doors open for the studios to create the Oscar-bait artsy stuff because the return on that stuff tends to be horrible, as a lot of these films lose money unless they either catch lightning in a bottle or have a great Oscar campaign.


Someone who shaped the business as much as Scorsese should know damn well why certain films get made and certain films are generally passed over by studios.

Film may be art but it is also business and an artistically great film isn’t necessarily going to be profitable, meaning that the current popular film genre, meaning superhero films at the moment, are what pays the freight for everything else.

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At the same time, he will also see fingers pointed at Lucas, Spielberg, and others who pretty much created the summer blockbuster.

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I don't see Spielberg, Scorsese, or Coppola complaining about the summer blockbuster. Summer blockbusters can generally still be original films of high quality. Think Inception. They're complaining about a certain kind of blockbuster that tells a variation of the same story over and over again and is mass produced like a lunchbox.

Lucas and other filmmakers from that generation might have been inspired into the entertainment industry by those Saturday matinee serials, but I’m sure they’d be the first to tell you that Flash Gordon wasn’t high quality storytelling.

The director of Brahm’s Strokers Dracula and Godfather 3 chimed in without the slightest inkling of self awareness.

Quite frankly, these two icons fancy themselves as stewards of cinema, when the Russos are clearly inspired by their buddies Lucas and Spielberg. The comments are beneath both of them.

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I’m definitely glad it’s being made, but did he leave out the part about it costing $160MM? That’s a high price for any studio to pay for a mob movie

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The news guy did. Scorsese more acknowledged it. They acted like most of it was CGI. It seems like it would be cheaper to hire younger actors or use a lot of makeup like studios used to do.