re: Making a Murderer - Part 2

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You believe it is "reasonable" that the police found the victim murdered, cut up her remains, burned her somewhere else, then stole Avery's blood and DNA from him while he was sleeping, grabbed his gun, shot her in the head (leaving the slug in the garage), then stashed all the evidence on the property where about a dozen people live that never saw them come and go?

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Who has ever said that's how it had to have happened?

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Dassey should be released and Avery should get a new trial

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The state is going to fight this to the very end without giving anybody a new trial because if a new trial was given at very least the Dassey confession would be out.....I also think the blood in the Rav4 would be out.

After that everything pretty much becomes circumstantial especially with what Zellner found out about the property, its access, the burn places, and where the bones where found not on Avery property.

There is no way in hell the state will take this to a new trial without exhausting every underhanded tactic they can.

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Someone had to "steal" Avery's blood and DNA for any alternative theory of the crime to be in any way plausible. Otherwise, he was in and moved her car making him involved in her death..

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Cool story, but that isn't what I asked. Who said that the police had to have been the ones who did all of what you listed?

Basically, what you did was build up a huge straw man with the most ridiculous things you could think of, then you represented that as how everyone who doesn't buy Kratz's narrative thinks things went down.

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Cool story, but that isn't what I asked. Who said that the police had to have been the ones who did all of what you listed?

Basically, what you did was build up a huge straw man with the most ridiculous things you could think of, then you represented that as how everyone who doesn't buy Kratz's narrative thinks things went down.

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Precisely.

I have only watched 3 episodes so I haven't gotten into the Bobby Dassey/Scott Tadych stuff other than what was shown at the end of Season 1.

Alternative to the police coverup theory that everyone talks about, I could see a scenario where Steven Avery WAS messing around with the Dassey boys (Like Brendan mentions in his phone call to Barb). Maybe Scott, Bobby, or whoever took exception to this and plotted all of this to set him up and send him back to prison? Scott always has this guilty look on his face when they show him on camera. Maybe the intent was not for Brendan to get caught up in this. Maybe Brendan was trying to hide other stuff and wound up getting himself in trouble with the lying. Kids are always digging themselves in deeper holes by trying to cover up one thing and ultimately getting in trouble for something else because of their lies. Maybe Scott looks guilty because he can't really help out Brendan without implicating himself and/or other Dasseys.

I just made all of that up out of thin air, but it's just as probable if not more probable than this stupid idea that the Cops set it all up.

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Exactly, neither are probable or likely, because they are absurd.. cause Avery and Dassey did it..

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I believe that they did it as well.

Almost done the series and Zellner has stacked up the most compelling forensic data I have ever seen.

The fact that there was zero bone fragments on the bullet that was allegedly used to kill Teresa says a lot to me. That in concordance with the low caliber round having an extreme low probability of exiting the human skull leaves me to believe something is quite frickey here.

Wisconsin has a Cat 5 Shitticane on its doorstep.

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5. Pornography was recovered in Avery's residence

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Hang 'em all!

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I'd love to see demographics for the 4 votes to overturn the federal appellate judge's ruling.

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These are the four judges:

Diane S. Sykes
Frank H. Easterbrook
Michael Stephen Kanne
David Hamilton

The guy told his cousin and confessed 4 times. They can't throw them all out. But lets just focus on Dassey's first confession, which is what the appeal centered on.

The police took him and his mother to a resort. They asked his mother if they could talk to him without her, she agrees. Dassey is 16 (old enough to be considered an adult in many jurisdictions). They advise him of his rights before they begin questioning. They other him food and drink periodically. He is sitting on a plush couch in a temperature controlled room. The cops never threaten, touch or raise their voices.

Now how is that an illegal interrogation? If that goes to the Supreme court, if changes how "minors" are questioned and thousands of cases are up for review. It was a fair interogation. The cops just broke him. That is their job..