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re: Lucasfilm wants all star wars projects to have females or POC as main characters

Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:03 pm to
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I don't get "triggered" by television shows.



you made a comment about the "girl power" moment in the episode thread

noone else noticed it or was bothered by it but you

what does that say?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:04 pm to
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They deliberately removed all the males from the main group storming Gideons ship.

Dear Jesus,

If I ever get to the point where the sight of four women on a TV screen drives me to complain on the internet, please kill me and give my organs to men with greater intestinal fortitude.

- Your servant
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:05 pm to
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they were decoys to keep all the stormtroopers away from Mando so he could to baby yoda



No they weren't. They were there for Gideon. Mando was sent to seal off the dark troopers before going after Grogu.


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they could have written all kinds of other scenarios that didn't include a white male saving the day



That would have had the same impact to the story? I thought Luke Skywalker appearing was wildly popular. Why was it so popular again? Was it because he's a white guy?
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:06 pm to
Just do what I do and don’t watch.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:08 pm to
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Dear Jesus,

If I ever get to the point where the sight of four women on a TV screen drives me to complain on the internet, please kill me and give my organs to men with greater intestinal fortitude.

- Your servant


pathetic


I point out what is objectively happening in a show and you're talking about killing yourself now. Very strange.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:09 pm to
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No they weren't. They were there for Gideon.


Bo Katan literally said that they would keep the stormtroopers away, but ok

There were 2 objectives:

1) Mando to rescue baby yoda
2) Bo Katan to defeat Gideon to get the dark saber

In no way was Manda a "decoy" as you stated

quote:

That would have had the same impact to the story? I thought Luke Skywalker appearing was wildly popular. Why was it so popular again? Was it because he's a white guy?




having a literal white male savior goes against everything you are pushing in this thread and you can't admit it
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:10 pm to
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tiggerthetooth


Holy frick did you even pay attention to what you were watching?
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:10 pm to
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you made a comment about the "girl power" moment in the episode thread



Yep and why is that so triggering to you. I commented on my observations. Then people attacked me for pointing it out. So who's the triggered one?


quote:

noone else noticed it or was bothered by it but you




What makes you think I was bothered. Its interesting logic you're employing here. By pointing out obvious things that can be seen on screen that gives you the power to read my emotional state?

I've seen too much of it to be bothered. I've watched the episode multiple times. Explain how you know I'm bothered.


Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:15 pm to
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Yep and why is that so triggering to you.


because people like you live to be outraged and constantly force that shite into conversations

its annoying as frick

quote:

What makes you think I was bothered.


the fact that you even mentioned it, obviously

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By pointing out obvious things that can be seen on screen that gives you the power to read my emotional state?


Yes. It isn't difficult. And lets not pretend that you don't have an entire post history of whining about shite like this.



Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Bo Katan literally said that they would keep the stormtroopers away, but ok


No she said their act of making their way towards Gideon (who they assumed was at the bridge) would draw a crowd given their crew and the fact that they were heading to the bridge.

They had an entire scene where Gideon said Bo Katan would be disappointed to not find him.


quote:

There were 2 objectives:

1) Mando to rescue baby yoda
2) Bo Katan to defeat Gideon to get the dark saber

In no way was Manda a "decoy" as you stated



Okay fair. Doesn't matter. The point still stands that they deliberately made sure it was a fully female crew storming the bridge.


quote:

having a literal white male savior goes against everything you are pushing in this thread and you can't admit it




You refuse to answer the question I asked earlier. Why was the Luke Skywalker moment so popular among fans? Was it because he's white or because he was an established character?
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:19 pm to
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You refuse to answer the question I asked earlier.


because its an irrelevant question to my point
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:22 pm to
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because people like you live to be outraged and constantly force that shite into conversations



I'm not outraged at all. Are you reading my mind buddy? I didn't force it into conversations. You entered MY thread. So who was the triggered one here? You seem angry anyone would criticize any social agenda. Maybe avoid the thread next time, but I suppose you're upset anyone would mention it.


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the fact that you even mentioned it, obviously




Why would that mean I'm bothered? You really can't explain how you know the difference between observation and what emotion is attached to said observation.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:26 pm to
Bruh...

The main character of the show is the Mandalorian. His only goal is to protect the child. All he cared about on the mission was getting the child. He doesn't give a shite about Gideon. Bo Katan wanting to kill Gideon helped him get the child. Bo Katan was his decoy so he could get the child. This shite isn't rocket science.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:26 pm to
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because its an irrelevant question to my point



Not at all. You're focused on race while I'm focused on character.

When I see Luke Skywalker I see an established character that has wide appeal within the franchise because of his story. You see a white male as you've made sure to bring up in multiple posts.

You seem to believe I care if someone is white male or not. I don't.

Ahsoka's appearance had wide appeal as well because she was well established and earned.


Why did Reys character fail? Because she didn't earn the fans respect with her story.

The race/gender swaps will fail if they can't back it up with a good narrative.

Name me one show thats focused on race/gender in who gets what role thats succeeded?


When I see Disney is going to focus on the race/gender of their characters we all know that means less effort in writing/story. We've seen this repeat before. I hope I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 1:28 pm
Posted by hth52
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:27 pm to
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No they were going straight to Gideon. He wasn't there though.


They had their own goal, but still ran decoy for Din. Din then inadvertently steals Bo’s main goal from her.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:30 pm to
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They had their own goal, but still ran decoy for Din. Din then inadvertently steals Bo’s main goal from her.


They said they were a "misdirection" but it's confusing because they didn't do anything they wouldn't have had to do anyways to make it to the bridge.

Only Mando had the extra task of sealing off the dark troopers.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Name me one show thats focused on race/gender in who gets what role thats succeeded?


The SyFy Battlestar Galactica. They knew going in they wanted to flip Starbuck and Boomer from men to women.

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:36 pm to
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Not at all. You're focused on race while I'm focused on character.


LOL no

quote:

You see a white male as you've made sure to bring up in multiple posts.


No you moron

I'm pointing out the fact that if the goal was to remove white males as the heroes in the universe, they could have easily cast Ezra as a POC and had him come in and people would have been just as excited as they were to see Ahsoka

quote:

You seem to believe I care if someone is white male or not. I don't.


except you do, since you were the only one to point out all the "girl power" moment

quote:

When I see Disney is going to focus on the race/gender of their characters we all know that means less effort in writing/story.


except in the cases that your article already pointed out in The Mandalorian, Rogue One, and potentially the others coming down the pipe

quote:

I hope I'm wrong.


no you don't
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:46 pm to
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No you moron

I'm pointing out the fact that if the goal was to remove white males as the heroes in the universe, they could have easily cast Ezra as a POC and had him come in and people would have been just as excited as they were to see Ahsoka



Yikes. Luke Skywalker is infinitely more popular than Ezra and Ahsoka.


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except you do, since you were the only one to point out all the "girl power" moment



It was an intentional girl power moment for sure. Are you saying there's no attempt to promote women in star wars?


quote:

except in the cases that your article already pointed out in The Mandalorian, Rogue One, and potentially the others coming down the pipe



The Mandalorian was not a female focused show until the last season there were some scenes. Outside of that it stuck to the core story.

Rogue One wasn't really a female story either. It was pretty ambiguous given the entire cast of characters.


quote:

no you don't



Okay buddy.

You keep thinking you exactly whats going on in my mind. Are you a psychologist?



Posted by Tactical1
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

was purposely done to highlight the women.


No it wasn’t.
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