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re: Luca on Disney Plus
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:07 pm to St Augustine
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:07 pm to St Augustine
just finished it too. Eh. Bottom tier Pixar IMO. Not bad but definitely not comparable to their best.
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Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:17 pm to truthbetold
I would put it as a middle of the pack Pixar film. Not as good as classics like Toy Story, Monsters Inc., and The Incredibles but way better than the stinkers like Brave, Cars 2, and Wall-E.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:19 pm to Blaeke
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way better than the stinkers like Brave, Cars 2, and Wall-E.
No offense but you’re a fricking moron if you think WALL-E is one of the bottom feeders of their catalog. Seriously you’re either 3 or very stupid to find that to be a bottom feeder. It’s one of the greatest and most ambitious animated movies of all time, and you are a mouth breather.
WALL-E was Pixar’s second planned film after Toy Story, but Disney (Eisner specifically) refused to release a mostly silent love story, and when Pixar left Disney part of the deal of coming back was allowing them to make WALL-E with no creative restraints. It’s why much of it feels like a “frick You” to Disney. It is one of the greatest animated films ever made and is Pixar’s masterpiece.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:31 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Soul looked stupid, I may never get around to watching it
I thought so too, but we watched it on a family night and it was actually pretty good.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:08 pm to udtiger
It looks to have potential and harkens back to some of the early days stories.
I can’t understand anyone criticizing Wall-E as not a top tier movie. Brave is actually a pretty damn good one too.
I think people are shorting themselves not watching Soul. I really was hesitant and found it to be a near great movie. It was touching and you can connect with the story unless an Uber religious nut that can’t handle varied interpretations of the afterlife.
I can’t understand anyone criticizing Wall-E as not a top tier movie. Brave is actually a pretty damn good one too.
I think people are shorting themselves not watching Soul. I really was hesitant and found it to be a near great movie. It was touching and you can connect with the story unless an Uber religious nut that can’t handle varied interpretations of the afterlife.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:27 pm to OMLandshark
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No offense but you’re a fricking moron if you think WALL-E is one of the bottom feeders of their catalog. Seriously you’re either 3 or very stupid to find that to be a bottom feeder. It’s one of the greatest and most ambitious animated movies of all time, and you are a mouth breather.
It’s pretty pathetic how personally you take peoples opinions of animated movies on a message board dude. You should probably grow the frick up one day.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:57 pm to St Augustine
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It’s pretty pathetic how personally you take peoples opinions of animated movies on a message board dude. You should probably grow the frick up one day.
I’m sorry, but comparing a masterpiece to Cars 2, you deserve to be ridiculed. WALL-E is probably one of the 5 greatest animated films ever made. It ages better and better by the day. It is Pixar’s best film. If The Lion King was put in the same category as The Aristocats, that person would rightly be gloriously shat upon.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:04 pm to geauxtigers87
Decent kid movie
Might have been a good series to release
Might have been a good series to release
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:22 pm to OMLandshark
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No offense
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you’re a fricking moron if you think WALL-E is one of the bottom feeders of their catalog. Seriously you’re either 3 or very stupid to find that to be a bottom feeder. It’s one of the greatest and most ambitious animated movies of all time, and you are a mouth breather.
Lmao you’re such a psychopath
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:29 pm to Hayekian serf
I watched today hungover, I love animated movies hungover.
That said, I loved the Italian Riviera setting. Would love to go there. But story wise, it’s too simple to move above average. There’s literally not much to it. It’s a story about friends in summer. Usually Pixar stirs some deep emotion in me but this one didn’t.
Overall B
Great setting and animation gets an A, story is below average and gets a C.
That said, I loved the Italian Riviera setting. Would love to go there. But story wise, it’s too simple to move above average. There’s literally not much to it. It’s a story about friends in summer. Usually Pixar stirs some deep emotion in me but this one didn’t.
Overall B
Great setting and animation gets an A, story is below average and gets a C.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:47 pm to wildtigercat93
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Lmao you’re such a psychopath
Have I ever threatened anyone?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:00 pm to wildtigercat93
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Lmao you’re such a psychopath
He's right though. Wall-E is one of the best animated movies ever made.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:11 pm to Frac the world
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Usually Pixar stirs some deep emotion in me but this one didn’t.
Overall B
I agree with you. This movie didn't get me emotionally invested like Pixar films usually do. It was good, but not great. Was a fun movie to watch with the whole family though.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:50 pm to OMLandshark
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Soul shouldn’t have been exclusively released on Disney+, Toy Story 4 should have been.
lol that would be the worst business decision the House of Mouse would have made since they put Kathleen Kennedy in charge of Lucasfilms. Not to mention the fact that Toy Story 4 was released in the Summer of 2019 and Soul was released in December of 2020.
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Those aren’t concepts that we’re naturally interested in.
You're clearly speaking just for yourself here because you're talking out of your arse here. Toys on a road trip, a toy made out of scrap nothing, forgotten/lost toys, and toys that go from town to town hoping to be won are all great stories individually, but they managed to weave them all into one movie. If anything, it served as a new launching point for the series.
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The movie is fine as it is, but Toy Story 3 ended perfectly, and I don’t think you should have fricked with it.
Toy Story 3 was the end of Andy's story, but the movie is called Toy Story, not Andy's story. And their story is clearly not over despite your terrible attempts at thinking you have an ounce of creativity.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:06 pm to OMLandshark
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WALL-E was Pixar’s second planned film after Toy Story,
No it wasn't.
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but Disney (Eisner specifically) refused to release a mostly silent love story
None of this is true.
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when Pixar left Disney part of the deal of coming back was allowing them to make WALL-E with no creative restraints.
There was no deal to be made because there was never an issue to be made.
Why did you make up a bunch of bullshite just to tell the guy that he's a dumbass for his opinion on Wall-E when he was likely trolling anyways? You're becoming the angry elf version of OweO on here.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:21 pm to imjustafatkid
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He's right though. Wall-E is one of the best animated movies ever made.
Eh... just don't dwell on it too much or you'll realize how morbid it really is, and how much of "feeding the wrong wolf" is in it. It does contradict itself. Man becomes lazy because he develops too much technology in the name of advancement and convenience and it ultimately makes him a blob of uselessness, but ultimately it is the same machine of convenience that "redeems" him.
I do think it's funny that it was an attack on the old school large retailers (Wal-Mart primarily), but the biggest a-hole corporations are the tech-centric ones and one of the biggest a-hole tech companies now (Apple) had their leader of the time (Steve Jobs) contribute to the development of the movie.
Honestly the best part of the movie was the early part, when it was simple, clear and precise. It's the movies of old, the ones that Wall-E watched that drove the early days of Hollywood when stories were easily accessible and positive. It was reflected in Wall-E who was basically a reflection of the average citizen who first enjoyed the movies - worked a simple, but active job, came home to modest surroundings with few, but impactful material possessions but didn't make a fuss about it. The second half of the movie was all about the complex bullshittery that came out of Hollywood in the 60s and 70s when everyone thought they were bold and better because they became convoluted and excessive and went bitter and dark with their stories.
IDK, part of me believes the story would have been better without humans at all, but whatever.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:51 pm to OMLandshark
I really liked Onward.
Just wish there wasn’t so much dust in my eye while I was Watching it. But that may just be because I have An older brother.
Just wish there wasn’t so much dust in my eye while I was Watching it. But that may just be because I have An older brother.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 12:18 am to TheeRealCarolina
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Eh... just don't dwell on it too much or you'll realize how morbid it really is
Ummmm, that’s the point of the movie even if WALL-E is an upbeat character. I got that the first viewing.
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Man becomes lazy because he develops too much technology in the name of advancement and convenience and it ultimately makes him a blob of uselessness, but ultimately it is the same machine of convenience that "redeems" him.
No. It doesn’t have to be a machine that redeems him and the movie directly shows this. WALL-E disillusions the fat woman, but who disillusions the fat guy? The disillusioned woman. It just takes human decency to do it, and that’s what WALL-E excels at.
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I do think it's funny that it was an attack on the old school large retailers (Wal-Mart primarily), but the biggest a-hole corporations are the tech-centric ones and one of the biggest a-hole tech companies now (Apple) had their leader of the time (Steve Jobs) contribute to the development of the movie
Ummm, what’s really changed from there? Amazon is going to be opening grocery stores on mass soon. Seems to me they called it, even if it wasn’t Wal-Mart specifically that did it.
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The second half of the movie was all about the complex bullshittery that came out of Hollywood in the 60s and 70s when everyone thought they were bold and better because they became convoluted and excessive and went bitter and dark with their stories.
No, the second half of the movie is creepily similar to what we’re going through today. Here was the moral of the story in an exchange between the antagonist and the Captain:
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AUTO: On the Axiom we will survive.
Captain: I DON’T WANT TO SURVIVE! I WANT TO LIVE!
Does that not resonate at all after Covid on everything you’ve been told?
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 12:20 am
Posted on 6/19/21 at 12:30 am to TheeRealCarolina
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No it wasn't.
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None of this is true.
bullshite. They thought the space theme would be simple animation wise and were excited for the plot (which granted the end turned out much differently than initially planned). Eisner liked the other ideas and told them to go with the Bug and Monster idea from that lunch where they came up with the next 5 movies they filmed. He fought them tooth and nail for years to make WALL-E.
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There was no deal to be made because there was never an issue to be made.
What do you mean there wasn’t an issue? They left because they had major issues with Disney, Eisner specifically. They demanded he be fired if they were to come back into the Disney banner with the head of Pixar to take his place. That’s a hell of a demand.
And honestly I don’t blame Eisner all that much for being against WALL-E. 90% of the film is silent, so it’s a huge gamble with kids. It’s music to adults like me, but my little cousins found it boring when it was released. Plus the early development of Toy Story was a dumpster fire and they certainly didn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt they could pull off a film of that scope yet. I think Lasseter went out over his skis to try to get it made early and it’s a good thing that film was severely delayed to get it just right.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 12:36 am
Posted on 6/19/21 at 6:49 am to TheeRealCarolina
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Soul looked stupid,
I thought it was great.
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