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re: LOTR v. Star Wars

Posted on 2/26/10 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/26/10 at 8:33 pm to
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Did you just say that the acting in LOTRs was better than Star Wars?!?!


Is this even debateable? Other than Alec Guiness, is there anyone remotely on the level of Ian McKellen's Gandolf? Keep in mind, there are a TON of charatcres and a large number of fine actors dispersed throughout LOTR.

And Star Wars? What are the outstanding actiing performaces there?

And let's not get into Lucas' shitty dialog... Half of what Luke says in A New Hope is cringe worthy.
Posted by herro
Member since Dec 2009
1082 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 8:34 pm to
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It's like comparing dumb&dumber to titanic, imo.


Wow. You are stupid.



Geezus. I guess I should not have used this analogy.
The point is that comedy vs drama are two different genres. I don't mean to compare one of the LOTR/SW to either dumb and dumber or titanac

It is just my point that I think they are different genres.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/26/10 at 8:36 pm to
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It is just my point that I think they are different genres.



One is a good vs evil sci-fi epic with action, drama, and tragedy.

One is a good vs evil Fantasy epic with action, drama, and tragedy.

They really are not all that different. Just different scenery.
Posted by herro
Member since Dec 2009
1082 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 8:39 pm to
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They really are not all that different. Just different scenery.


See my post above about the difference between Fantasy and SciFi.

quote:

One is a good vs evil sci-fi epic with action, drama, and tragedy.

One is a good vs evil Fantasy epic with action, drama, and tragedy.



This is a good breakdown. You're right, they have very similar elements. My point is that for me, they're in different genres and I don't think one can say one is BETTER than the other one.
Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 2/26/10 at 8:41 pm to
They are not that different.
Posted by herro
Member since Dec 2009
1082 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 8:47 pm to
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They are not that different.

I'm thinking they are more different than you might think.
Ex. Look at some of the opinions on this movie debate. Some are fantasy fans and some are sci-fi fans. They love one or hate the other.

eta: fix.
This post was edited on 2/26/10 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15603 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 8:47 pm to
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They are not that different.






SPOILERS!!!




Sauron is not Frodo's father.

Posted by chappaslappa
Member since Feb 2010
1254 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:22 pm to
imho LOTR>>>>>>SW
the only thing I dont like about the LOTR trilogy is that they left out Tom Bombadil, who I think is probably the greatest character in literary history
Posted by herro
Member since Dec 2009
1082 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:24 pm to
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Tom Bombadil, who I think is probably the greatest character in literary history


I agree totally. I kept waiting to see something about him.
Maybe if hobbit ever comes out, they'll have him.

I DID like in the extended version of LOTR how they showed the cement trolls!
Posted by chappaslappa
Member since Feb 2010
1254 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:30 pm to
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Maybe if hobbit ever comes out, they'll have him.

Tom Bombadil wasn't in The Hobbit, so I doubt he will be in the movie version.
Posted by herro
Member since Dec 2009
1082 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:33 pm to
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Tom Bombadil wasn't in The Hobbit, so I doubt he will be in the movie version.

Um. Yes he was.

The trolls in extended LOTR were also from the hobbit.
Posted by chappaslappa
Member since Feb 2010
1254 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:37 pm to
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Um. Yes he was.

No. He definitely was not. I've read The Hobbit twice and Tom Bombadil wasn't in there either time.
quote:

The trolls in extended LOTR were also from the hobbit

That is right though
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:37 pm to
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Um. Yes he was.


pretty sure he was only in the fellowship of the ring
Posted by herro
Member since Dec 2009
1082 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:42 pm to
shite shite...
you're right
my badddd

quote:

Beorn

Is who I'm thinking about!
Posted by MadMaxwell
The Motherland
Member since Jul 2009
4600 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:44 pm to
Star Wars wins because of its characters. I break it down like this:

Frodo vs. Luke Skywalker - Both are whiny little terds for the most part, and both have a glowing sword of some sort. Although Luke does kiss his sister, at least we know he likes girls. Meanwhile, we have to suffer through 8 hours of Frodo undressing Sam with his eyes. Luke wins.

Han Solo vs. Aragorn - This one is much closer. Solo and Aragorn are both certified badasses, but Solo wins by an edge because he survives being frozen in metal and kills the baddest bounty hunter in the galaxy while blind. That and he hangs out with Chewbecca, who could rip Gimli's arms off and beat Legolas to death with them. Solo wins. Although Aragorn gets a bonus point for keeping his beard at exactly 6 days length for all 3 movies, how does he do that?

Sauron vs. Darth Vader - Vader wins because he actually has lines other than "I see you."

R2-D2 and C-3PO vs. Merry and Pippen - Seriously, is this the shire or Disneyland? Merry and Pippen? Why not just name them Bi and Curious. Robots win.

Leia vs. Arwen - Despite the fact that Liv Tyler is hot as hell, she does not, however, wear a metal bikini at anytime during the series. Leia wins.

Finally, the battle of the deadmeats.
TK-421 vs. Boromir - Both these characters were doomed from the beginning, but I'll give the edge to Boromir, because at least he goes out like a man. So there, LOTR gets this one. Boromir wins.


Posted by chappaslappa
Member since Feb 2010
1254 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

Beorn

is a bad arse. They better not leave him out of the movie like they left out Tom Bombadil or I am going pissed.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:47 pm to
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TK-421


Wasn't that just some random stormtooper? How does that relate to Boromir?

Also, how do you not compare Obi-Wan to Gandalf?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42293 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:51 pm to
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MadMaxwell


seriously all I read was blah blah blah Im a hater and I like star wars more than LOTR
Posted by chappaslappa
Member since Feb 2010
1254 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:51 pm to
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Also, how do you not compare Obi-Wan to Gandalf?

Because he knows that Gandalf wins in a landslide.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20475 posts
Posted on 2/26/10 at 9:54 pm to
Obi-Wan has a lightsaber, Gandalf only has a staff. Lightsaber looks much cooler when you swing it on someone. I'll give Gandalf that he has the better hat.
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