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re: Lost 5-6-09 "Follow the Leader"

Posted on 5/7/09 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 5/7/09 at 12:54 pm to
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I thought we had already determined that Christian was Jacob..??


this is not true...

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Is next week just an hour, or are the season finales two hours


7-8 CT is a recap

8-10 CT is Season Finale Part 1 + 2
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/7/09 at 2:34 pm to
I see Jin killing jack at the end of the season to stop him from setting off the bomb. I just don't see Jin allowing Jack to wipe out his baby and his relationship with his wife.

Hell for all we know, it is the stinking bomb that causes the incident.
Posted by Foot
Member since Jan 2005
2330 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 2:40 pm to
This tunnel system on the island with it's many different rooms, entrances, and vast-ness is reminding me of the LSU tunnel system.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66671 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 3:02 pm to
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Hell for all we know, it is the stinking bomb that causes the incident.


Pretty sure a lot of people are coming to that conclusion.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41064 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 3:04 pm to
Oh god! I sure hope they don't end it like Stephen King ended the Dark Tower. Even though I didn't mind the Dark Tower ending, it will piss me off if they do it on Lost.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/7/09 at 3:12 pm to
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did anyone else notice that Eloise might have had a tummy bulge [she's pregnant] in the episode or was that just me


Also Charles said something about her condition. Pretty sure she is pregnant with Daniel here.

Speaking of that, do we know who Penny's mom is? Could she and Daniel be full blooded brother/sister? Hell, they could be twins, though Penny seems older than Daniel. If they can try to pass Ethan off as that young, they can do it with Penny. In '77, Charles has already been on the island for a long time, so I doubt he had her with a previous wife and left her unless he left the island to get someone pregnant. I haven't seen a little Penny running around the island.

ETA: I reread this post. Sorry for the rambling. I could hardly determine what I was saying, and I said it.
This post was edited on 5/7/09 at 3:17 pm
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/7/09 at 3:14 pm to
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un-detonated bomb why and how it got to the present from '77 i have no clue but i hav a feeling these people are working for Ben/Richard



The box doesn't seem big enough to hold jughead. I could be wrong.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
17381 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 3:15 pm to
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I thought we had already determined that Christian was Jacob..??


I think Christian told someone (Locke maybe?) that he was not Jacob, but he could speak for him.
Posted by Frightened Inmate #2
Member since Jul 2004
2984 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 3:31 pm to
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I think Christian told someone (Locke maybe?) that he was not Jacob, but he could speak for him.


Yep.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41064 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 3:37 pm to
Ben is going to go apeshit crazy. He is not used to being out of control and Locke keeps surprising him more and more.

By the way, the casting person that picked Michael Emerson deserves full kudos. He has been fantastic as Ben and his creepy eyes add to the overall effect.
Posted by red4lsu
B'ham
Member since Jul 2004
11071 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 3:56 pm to
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Also Charles said something about her condition. Pretty sure she is pregnant with Daniel here.


So she killed her own son while she was pregnant with him.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
17381 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 4:50 pm to
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So she killed her own son while she was pregnant with him.


Looks that way.
Posted by jguidroz
South Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1650 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 4:54 pm to
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If you remember, Ben told John... Imagine a box, where whatever you wished for would appear. Where's this box and how does it work?


I thought Ben showed John that box when he delivered his dad to him.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83732 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 4:54 pm to
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Hell for all we know, it is the stinking bomb that causes the incident.


I dont think anything ever comes of the bomb... Think about it, Locke brought Ben and Richard to the aircraft so Richard could tell Ben what to do. Ellie was supposed to shoot Faraday....So in that sense, these situations have been playing themselves over and over again.

Everthing that is happening now, led up to what was in 2007.

We already know that Ben doesnt take over for another 10+ years, thus they will still be on the island, live in the same houses, etc...

If the Bomb goes off, none of that takes place. The bomb cannot go off. That would change the outcome of everything. (2X + Y = Z) X and Y can change, but Z will always remain the same.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 5:07 pm to
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I thought we had already determined that Christian was Jacob..?? Why is that being ignored now..did I miss something?



Christian is Jacob's spokesmen, not Jacob himself. Jacob had been on the Island a long, long time before Flight 815 crashed, and when Locke mentioned him in the 50s, he was apparently around back then.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 5:09 pm to
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un-detonated bomb why and how it got to the present from '77 i have no clue but i hav a feeling these people are working for Ben/Richard...and somehow hooked this up from the past...


The bomb was in 1954, not 2004-2007.
Posted by GeauxElliott
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
3729 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 5:12 pm to
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I thought Ben showed John that box when he delivered his dad to him.


I don't remember him showing him the box.. I remember him taking Locke to his dad tied up in a room.

If that was the box.. I'd still like to know how it worked. Before James killed Locke's dad, he talked like he thought he had died and that he was in hell. He described being in a car and then waking up on the island. Wonder if he flashed to the island.... hmmmmmmm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

see Jin killing jack at the end of the season to stop him from setting off the bomb. I just don't see Jin allowing Jack to wipe out his baby and his relationship with his wife.

Hell for all we know, it is the stinking bomb that causes the incident.

Its not that Jack would kill the child, its just Jack is counting on whipping the slate clean to where the plane never crashes. I'm not sure Jin would be fully against this since he may believe there is no possible way he could see his wife again unless he does this.

And I think its highly, highly, highly likely that Jack does indeed cause the Incident and he is the reason why he came to the Island in the first place. There is actually little doubt he does cause it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 5:17 pm to
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I dont think anything ever comes of the bomb... Think about it, Locke brought Ben and Richard to the aircraft so Richard could tell Ben what to do. Ellie was supposed to shoot Faraday....So in that sense, these situations have been playing themselves over and over again.

Everthing that is happening now, led up to what was in 2007.

We already know that Ben doesnt take over for another 10+ years, thus they will still be on the island, live in the same houses, etc...

If the Bomb goes off, none of that takes place. The bomb cannot go off. That would change the outcome of everything. (2X + Y = Z) X and Y can change, but Z will always remain the same.

The Bomb may not go off the way a normal H-bomb should due to the Island's electromagnetism, to where it doesn't wipe everyone off the Island. It may store up Jughead's energy, to where the button being pushed is essentially holding some of Jughead's power back.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41064 posts
Posted on 5/7/09 at 5:19 pm to
Jin would know that the child would be gone. Lets not get into an abortion debate over this, but it would end the childs existence.

Jin is honorable. I belive Jin would rather have a child and wife he can't see to no child and a broken relationship with Sun.

In fact we already know this since he told Locke to tell Sun to never come back to the Island.
This post was edited on 5/7/09 at 5:21 pm
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