re: 'Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power' Ep 1 Negativity Thread. Enter at your own risk

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said this in a different thread, I'm in a random LOTR facebook group with probably 20k followers. If you're in a LOTR facebook group, odds are you are a more of a LOTR fan than the average person. I click on the group from time to time and everytime I do, it's people talking about how excited they are for this show. People want a LOTR fix, and this is going to give it to them.

If you go into this as an average fan, not knowing the source material or caring about a show doing it perfect justice (like most everybody that is going to watch it), this could be a very good show. You're watching a show about a subject that you like and is interesting to you and you're not looking for a reason to complain.

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Yeah, this is the biggest thing, and folks like OML just make me shake my head.

Every show or movie that comes out, we could have complaints or gripes about. But usually, the concerns have been about whether they had the budget to do the story justice.
This has that. It has the benefit of PJ's movies as a guide to visual appearances (costumes, sets, various creatures). It has GoT (and Rome) as a template of how to progress a story over seasons, and how to maximize sets and locations for budget purposes (Rome's huge flaw). It has the cooperation with the Estate for accessing various characters and themes, and also to spot-check whether something would fit; remember despite all the wailing, the Estate stipulated that they can NOT deviate in a major way from Tolkien's tales. So, for example, Saruman dying at Isengard... that likely would have been nixed.

Same for Faramir initially taking Frodo and Sam back to Gondor. Huge no-no if you compare it to the actual books, that would have meant Faramir would fall to the same fate Boromir did. Books consistently state that your only defense from the Ring's persuasive power is complete rejection to even try to take it. Gandalf and Galadriel both openly state it. Frodo fails at the end, because he, like Isildur, is not strong enough to do what must be done (lucky for Frodo that Gollum is there).

These are some things the movies failed at, and yet they are beloved, because at least we got a good product to watch.

I'd much rather that Amazon (HBO, etc) at least TRY, and give us a show, instead of NOT try, and we sit around just rewatching 20 yr old movies because there's nothing else to watch. If it's off the mark, we won't watch, and the books and movies remain. If it's on target, we get MORE of what we want.

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The Star Wars movie you boycotted made a billion, Dr Strange just made 950,000,000. Spiderman a gazillion dollars. The Batman made 760,000,000 million.

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Iirc, I don't think this board hated Spiderman or The Batman, nor were they generally ridiculed in memes. Those might exist somewhere, but the fandom types were never bashing either of those movies. I said on here that I liked both.

Now do Thor. Batgirl cancelled despite completion? She Hulk?

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I'd much rather that Amazon (HBO, etc) at least TRY, and give us a show, instead of NOT try, and we sit around just rewatching 20 yr old movies because there's nothing else to watch. If it's off the mark, we won't watch, and the books and movies remain. If it's on target, we get MORE of what we want.

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This is exactly how I feel about it. We finally get a chance to see events of the first/second age and years of the trees played out in live action, so why not make an attempt to enjoy it for what it is. If it turns out to be terrible, or woke or whatever, we’ll forget all about it and go back to enjoying the literature. At worst, it will still be better than the Hobbit trilogy.

Read your own article, dumbass

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The increased operating loss occurred even while Disney added about 15 million new Disney+ subscribers in the quarter, about 5 million more than analysts estimated.

Disney has previously stated it plans to lose money on Disney+ until 2024. Chief Financial Officer Christine McCarthy reiterated on Wednesday’s earnings conference call that Disney+’s losses will peak during the company’s fiscal 2022.

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Disney has previously stated it plans to lose money

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'we meant to do that.'

They've had financial and stock losses for a while now. They're up from their low point, but far from their high, kind of like Netflix.

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Disney raises streaming prices after services post big operating loss

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And? OLM claimed they were bleeding customers from going woke. That is categorically untrue. They keep beating subscription growth forecasts quarter over quarter.



FYI. Almost all streaming services are posting losses right now.

Aside from Netflix pivoting to stem their bleeding, pretty much all streaming companies are still operating a loss-leader growth strategy right now.

They are willing to take losses in order to secure and/or maximize market share.

I've said it to people for a while, enjoy it while you can, cause in 10 years people will look back and realize how good the last decade and today has been in TV related content. These loss leader strategies will shift the moment the winners of this arms race is settled and the perception is red hot growth is no longer achievable, loss leader strategy no longer sustainable. Then the bean counters will take over and start slashing budgets, cancelling shows, only investing in the broadest, safest audience tested ideas, and all of them will be on short leashes.

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I've said it to people for a while, enjoy it while you can, cause in 10 years people will look back and realize how good the last decade and today has been in TV related content. These loss leader strategies will shift the moment the winners of this arms race is settled and the perception is red hot growth is no longer achievable, loss leader strategy no longer sustainable. Then the bean counters will take over and start slashing budgets, cancelling shows, only investing in the broadest, safest audience tested ideas, and all of them will be on short leashes.

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It won't ever go back. People will simply drop these services if they get too expensive.

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sorantable

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Stfu you liberal woke troll

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That's why they gave them a pass for lack of accuracy. They didn't know any better at the time and when they read the books and saw the differences, they didn't care because they still liked what they first saw.

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Almost like the movies came out 20 years ago and so an entire generation, which this show is aimed at, that sees this production, will be experiencing it similarly and this world for the first time...

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Almost like the movies came out 20 years ago and so an entire generation, which this show is aimed at, that sees this production, will be experiencing it similarly and this world for the first time...

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So you're saying they hired frick scene coaches so they can recruit youngsters to LOTR?

I'm not declaring that it will suck. It will have a huge premiere. I'm just saying that if it does, the audience won't keep watching it out of brand loyalty. The only ones who might have will be the ones who are the most dedicated fans, but the show is shitting on them especially, so they'll be gone too.

shite, even Thor had a decent first weekend before word got out that it was awful.