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re: 'Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power' Ep 1 Negativity Thread. Enter at your own risk
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:22 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:22 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Once again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Says the person still unable to grasp the difference between narrative and characterization lol…
How many of those idiots breeched the capital with the intent to disrupt the peaceful and rightful transition of power???
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:27 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Tolkien didn't have a message, but I fixed it for you as best as can be done.
Trying to interject racism into this discussion is a strawman argument. Because you think that any defense of Tolkien means someone must be a racist? It’s a self-reenforcing position where either you agree with race swapping Elves s and hobits, or you’re a racist. That is the height of intellectual dishonesty.
You have no argument that’s not anchored in a foundation of bad faith.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:30 pm to Bronc
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Says the person still unable to grasp the difference between narrative and characterization lol…
Because it’s not a legitimate topic for this discussion.
You trying to make it one only goes to prove how unfamiliar you are with the works of Tolkien
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:32 pm to Bronc
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He can’t conversate respectfully like a normal human so he has to immediately grab for the most extremist framing of his perceived opponent to try and generate a pile on from a friendly crowd on a friendly board.
It’s the height of intellectual midgetry.
Lol. Says the guy using "conservate" in a sentence and labeling people as Nazis and fascists. You're guilty of everything you accuse others of being and doing.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:36 pm to Saint Alfonzo
I mean despite his asperger-like obsession with calling everything and everyone commies, you won’t actually find me going “well actually, the Marxist-Leninist Communists were pretty justified cause..”
Can’t really say the same with OLM and Nazis now can we?
So no, not really
Can’t really say the same with OLM and Nazis now can we?
So no, not really
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:39 pm to OMLandshark
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Been doing a Fantasy Football draft all night.
Who’s your TE? Tree Beard?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:41 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Because it’s not a legitimate topic for this discussion.
Why not?
Isn’t narrative important to fricking story telling?
What percentage of people know that Tolkien was writing Celtic myths when they first read the hobbit and LOTR trilogy?
I would wager it’s very low. So why did they enjoy it? I imagine you fall into that group. I do.
The story telling.
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You trying to make it one only goes to prove how unfamiliar you are with the works of Tolkien
No you want to ignore the works for the letters and footnotes that surround them. You don’t want to actually talk about the works themselves which can stand on their own just fine without outside context.
You don’t need to know what Tolkien was saying to enjoy them. You don’t need to read them as some great English mythology to enjoy them.
It’s compelling plots with epic themes and a fun tone.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:43 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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It's an iPhone post, punk. But I guess you're so small you need some sort of win.
My man you’re still floundering on how to differentiate basic storytelling definitions, at this point I’m just having a bit of fun running up the score..
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:48 pm to Bronc
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My man you’re still floundering on how to differentiate basic storytelling definitions, at this point I’m just having a bit of fun running up the score
Sorry little one, the stadium lights have been long shut off and you're alone in the bleachers.
You're still stuck under the delusion that there NEEDS to be 'narrative' with black elves, dwarves and hobbits.
There don't. That's the point. For the 57th time this thread, Tolkien WROTE PEOPLE AS HE MEANT TO! You trying to interject irrelevant and arbitrary rules changes nothing.
There is no case to be made for POC SEEING themselves in this story. They're free to see themselves however, but the characters are as they were meant to be. That's just how it is.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:49 pm to Bronc
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I mean despite his asperger-like obsession with calling everything and everyone commies, you won’t actually find me going “well actually, the Marxist-Leninist Communists were pretty justified cause..”
Can’t really say the same with OLM and Nazis now can we?
So no, not really
I'm not in here trying to label people as commies, Nazis, fascists, and racists. All of that sort of discourse is worn out and fricking dumb. All of you look like asshats.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:55 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Recap -
Sammy asked how it changes the narrative if the dwarves are black.
It's a nonsensical question. There are no dwarves of color. Period.
Carry on all you want about 'proper storytelling definitions' but they're all moot.
Why?
Because Tolkien created the world which he wanted. For the reasons he wanted.
There is no ' yeah, but what if... '. It simply doesn't exist.
Sammy asked how it changes the narrative if the dwarves are black.
It's a nonsensical question. There are no dwarves of color. Period.
Carry on all you want about 'proper storytelling definitions' but they're all moot.
Why?
Because Tolkien created the world which he wanted. For the reasons he wanted.
There is no ' yeah, but what if... '. It simply doesn't exist.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:00 pm to Bronc
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How many of those idiots breeched the capital with the intent to disrupt the peaceful and rightful transition of power???
Prob none. They didn’t have f 15s
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:05 pm to Bronc
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I’m glad to see you just out and out making excuses for the Nazis lol
It’s people like you and not me that led to their rise. You’re a fricking communist who would shoot anyone in the head that didn’t agree with you if you knew you could get away with it. Go frick yourself, even if that will add another check to your shitty bingo card. Scumbag.
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At least we finally have some honesty out of you. You are literally the modern equivalent of the 1930’s German far right conservative that was brainwashed into thinking they needed to embrace authoritarianism to fight a phantom threat.
No I was for the free market. Wouldn’t have voted for either, but I understand why the people who did it voted for that. It was only 30%, but that was enough.
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It was never a fear buddy, the communist party of Germany in the 30’s was a niche movement. A movement shunned by the Socialist party, the conservatives, and the majority of Germany. But Hitler didn’t rise out of realistic fears, he rose out of appeals to emotion about returning Germany to greatness via catastrophizing and promising to dispel the threat of his enemies and exaggerating social cleavages and prejudicial boogiemen and using fear of them as a justification for authoritarian actions.
And the irony of you latching onto someone like Tolkien is rather ironic. Considering he would take one look at that post and absolutely despise you and all your being for that Nazi defense. Yet somehow in your warped brain you’ve convinced yourself your seething hatreds are actually reflected in his work, when his work was anything but
Wow, just full fledged communism here. Have you told your parents you’re a communist? I’ve told my parents I’m a libertarian and they’re fine with it. I mean my God, just swallowing Marx’s load in his Manisfesto. You are a fricking disgrace for being a communist, and if your father knew who you actually are, he would wish he instead shot you on your mother’s tits. An open communist. What a disgrace you are. You are fricking scum. Wear a paper bag over your head, you genocidal lunatic. Go tell your dad who you are. You are one step above a pedophile.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:07 pm to Bronc
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He can’t conversate respectfully like a normal human so he has to immediately grab for the most extremist framing of his perceived opponent to try and generate a pile on from a friendly crowd on a friendly board.
It’s the height of intellectual midgetry.
You slandered me as a Nazi, when I never have said anything like that. You on the other hand are an open communist. Eat shite and die.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:08 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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So you believe that Southeastern and CP3LSU are Nazis and/or fascists? I take it you also believe they are Confederate racists. Is this an accurate summation?
Bronc is retarded commie that needs a safe space.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:10 pm to OMLandshark
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Been doing a Fantasy Football draft all night
The rest of the woke commies on here went dress as cosplay with their trans friends.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:10 pm to Bronc
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I mean despite his asperger-like obsession with calling everything and everyone commies, you won’t actually find me going “well actually, the Marxist-Leninist Communists were pretty justified cause..”
Can’t really say the same with OLM and Nazis now can we?
So no, not really
You won’t denounce communism and use all their talking points and vernacular. Here’s my position: frick Nazis and may every Nazi go kill themselves. Now go say the same thing about communists.
Oh you’re not going to say that because you’re an evil, filthy commie. Sorry, communists are also the archenemy of capitalists and really decent people in general. Go take a long walk off a short pier, you Stalinist cocksucker.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:11 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
I can See your autism is giving you trouble with this question. Which isn’t really a hypothetical considering there are now black dwarves in the show.
Let me phrase the question this way then, what part of the narrative revolves around the characters being white?
How does anyone being white advance the plot at any point?
Can the show not tel the same narrative now that all the characters aren’t white?
Let me phrase the question this way then, what part of the narrative revolves around the characters being white?
How does anyone being white advance the plot at any point?
Can the show not tel the same narrative now that all the characters aren’t white?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:11 pm to Bronc
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Bronc
Come to New Orleans Sunday in your cosplay outfit you commie so we can kick the shite out of you.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:11 pm to SammyTiger
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I can See your autism
Says the guy with Down syndrome.
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