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Just finished watching No Country for Old Men
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:53 am
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:53 am
Ending
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK???!!!!!
Is there will there be no sequel???!!!
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK???!!!!!
Is there will there be no sequel???!!!
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:21 am to Cow Drogo
Spoiler:
Chigurh is Satan.
Chigurh is Satan.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:33 am to Jim Rockford
Loved the movie but so aggravated of ending.
I loved that guy in sky fall
I loved that guy in sky fall
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:41 am to Jim Rockford
I didn't necessarily think he was Satan, I just thought he was evil incarnate...which could easily be interpreted as Satan I guess, but in the traditional, biblical depiction of Lucifer, he has a personality, he's more of a deceiver....Chigurgh was just a pure manifested force of darkness and evil that will never stop.
...Now Lorne Malvo, (Fargo Season 1) I thought was Satan. The tricks and evil things he did just to stir shite up for fun was how you'd think of the fallen angel himself. Especially with all the cryptic, human evolution type stuff Malvo said...it fits the "trickster" persona and ancient depiction of the devil perfectly.
I always liked a lot how the Coens depicted nihilism and just pure, evil in their movies (the series did a great job too). It's so that the human mind cant really grasp something so bad, it's unexplainable and almost mystic, which fits No Country For Old Men Perfectly. That's why the ending is like it is.
P.S. - The opening minute with the T.L. Jones voice over is possibly the best opening in any movie, ever.
...Now Lorne Malvo, (Fargo Season 1) I thought was Satan. The tricks and evil things he did just to stir shite up for fun was how you'd think of the fallen angel himself. Especially with all the cryptic, human evolution type stuff Malvo said...it fits the "trickster" persona and ancient depiction of the devil perfectly.
I always liked a lot how the Coens depicted nihilism and just pure, evil in their movies (the series did a great job too). It's so that the human mind cant really grasp something so bad, it's unexplainable and almost mystic, which fits No Country For Old Men Perfectly. That's why the ending is like it is.
P.S. - The opening minute with the T.L. Jones voice over is possibly the best opening in any movie, ever.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 4:46 am
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:42 am to Cow Drogo
The ending is the best part.
It's a book end from the voice over at the beginning. His dream is that his father left him in the cold and dark and went ahead and will be waiting for him. He's depressed at what the world has become where villains aren't captured. Where there is no justice. He's done.
I'm depressed this had to be explained to you.
It's a book end from the voice over at the beginning. His dream is that his father left him in the cold and dark and went ahead and will be waiting for him. He's depressed at what the world has become where villains aren't captured. Where there is no justice. He's done.
I'm depressed this had to be explained to you.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:47 am to Lacour
How much does the book opening and ending differ from the movie?
Posted on 8/18/16 at 5:08 am to Lacour
You don't make a movie without brolins character or TLJ confronting the villain again. Totally unsatisfying ending.
I enjoyed the movie though.
I enjoyed the movie though.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 5:24 am to Jack Ruby
The book and movie open and end the same. Very little differs from book to movie.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 5:28 am
Posted on 8/18/16 at 5:25 am to Cow Drogo
quote:
Cow drogo
Michael Bay is more your speed I think.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 5:40 am to Lacour
quote:
Michael Bay is more your speed I think.
Right. Because if a guy doesn't love the fact that a two hour slow speed chase has an anti-climatic ending, he's probably some idiot who likes Transformers.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 6:36 am to Cow Drogo
quote:
You don't make a movie without brolins character or TLJ confronting the villain again. Totally unsatisfying ending.
That's the way most "cops and robbers" movies go, yes, there is always some kind of final confrontation...which is precisely why this movie stands out the way it does. It's stark, it's bleak, it doesn't follow cliche story telling methods...hell there's not even a musical score. It was all done that way on purpose.
I don't know how old you are, but watch this movie again in a couple years and it will be better, then keep watching it and it I think you'll like it more. Many of the movies I now consider the best I've ever seen are ones I hated when I was younger.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 6:37 am
Posted on 8/18/16 at 6:59 am to ohiovol
That's exactly what it means, ohiovol.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 7:03 am to Cow Drogo
quote:
will there be no sequel???!!!
Posted on 8/18/16 at 7:09 am to Cow Drogo
quote:
You don't make a movie without brolins character or TLJ confronting the villain again.
Yes you do.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 8:05 am to ohiovol
quote:
Right. Because if a guy doesn't love the fact that a two hour slow speed chase has an anti-climatic ending, he's probably some idiot who likes Transformers.
If you claim to like a movie but then criticize the central message and point of the entire movie, which indicates that you are oblivious to its very existence, and you still don't recognize that when it is explicitly explained to you then you should probably watch something less nuanced, complicated, and subtle.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 8:14 am to Cow Drogo
quote:Is awesome. It's what would happen IRL. The cliche showdown didn't happen, and that's the point.
Ending
Or if you're referring to Carla Jeans fate, all the answers are there.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 8:31 am to ohiovol
quote:
Right. Because if a guy doesn't love the fact that a two hour slow speed chase has an anti-climatic ending, he's probably some idiot who likes Transformers.
The ending was not anti-climactic. It was shocking. Horrifying. I wanted to go through the screen and kill the guy myself. I never hated a movie character so much.
Then, when the wreck happens, I think that there will be justice. But, he still walks away. No justice.
It is "No Country for Old Men."
That was the point. Things don't always work out. The world is evil. You can't put bow on everything and wrap it up like a present. There aren't always happy endings. People die. Evil wins out in many ways.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 8:38 am to Lacour
quote:
Very little differs from book to movie.
One of the key plot differences is Carla Jean "not" calling it in the film. She refuses, kind of sitting in for the audience at this point with a "frick you, Chigurh." It also forces him to accept that he is the bad guy, although that's not much of a stretch. And - in his case, he'd already committed to killing her, so he viewed the coin toss as a sort of "mercy" (although it was really for his own entertainment.)
In a way, I prefer that to the book's version where she calls it and loses (to contrast and juxtapose the gas station owner). Another thing that leaps out in the film version - (Bardem's performance, in particular, adds a lot to the character - difficult to find any flaws in his performance) - he's got no good reason to kill the gas station attendant - and really no good reason to kill Carla Jean. I have no doubt he would have let her live if she'd called it an won.
But, he never gave folks he had to kill the choice. The coin toss was his whim and a warping of the notion of honor and "mercy" - it was actually more of his pathological sadism.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 8:40 am
Posted on 8/18/16 at 8:41 am to Cow Drogo
This movie is an absolute masterpiece. I certainly didn't think that it was a "slow-speed chase". I am on the edge of my seat the entire time each time I watch it. I love everything about this movie. The characters, the actors chosen to play them, the setting (1970's West Texas was perfect for this), the dialogue, the ending. Everything.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 9:04 am to Ace Midnight
Near the end of the movie, why did Chigurh kill the guy with the chicken crates in the bed of his truck? This guy wasn't involved in the mess in any way.
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