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Just finished the last duel
Posted on 1/15/22 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 1/15/22 at 4:33 pm
My biggest takeaway was the cinematography and landscape was really cool. The armor and set pieces were nice as well. The actual movie? Meh
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 5:05 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
The book is ambiguous about his guilt.
In the movie did he rape her, or didn't he?
In the movie did he rape her, or didn't he?
Posted on 1/15/22 at 5:07 pm to Roaad
That’s my only complaint about the movie. About midway through, it stops allowing the audience to think.
Much like The Hate U Give
Much like The Hate U Give
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 1/15/22 at 5:10 pm to alajones
quote:If Joy Reid was a movie
The Hate U Give
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:46 pm to alajones
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About midway through, it stops allowing the audience to think
The idiotic writing of Affleck and Damon ruined the entire ambiguity of the film.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:50 pm to Roaad
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In the movie did he rape her, or didn't he?
Yep. Could have not watched that.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:59 pm to Roaad
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The book is ambiguous about his guilt.
In the movie did he rape her, or didn't he?
It stays very true to the book, of course, historical there is no definite answer just like the book. There is a clue left by Ridley Scott at the beginning of Marguerite's truth as to how I suppose he feels.
If you haven't seen the movie the story up until the duel is told in three chapters, one from each of the three viewpoints.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 2:01 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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The actual movie? Meh
Feeling that way about the first 2 hours is fine, I guess.
I don't know how anyone can finish the movie, see the actual titular duel, and still have this opinion.
Hand down the most visceral, exciting, and effective action sequence of 2021.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 5:31 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I thought it was a great movie.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 5:36 am to Jack Ruby
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The idiotic writing of Affleck and Damon ruined the entire ambiguity of the film.
Yikes.
Pass for me.
The ambiguity is the entire intrigue. So many great dramas are built on, was he innocent was he guilty questions after the fact.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:37 am to Jay Are
The battle at the end was worth it.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:08 am to Geekboy
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I thought it was a great movie.
Not sure I would go quite so far, but I did enjoy it.
While the pacing was a little slow at times, I don’t understand the hate it’s getting.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:58 am to Jay Are
The fight scene at the end was cool, but that doesn’t save the overall movie to me. The duel and battle at the beginning makes me wish Ridley Scott would just make a movie over more medieval battles, maybe some something like Hastings, agincourt or manzikert
Posted on 1/17/22 at 6:37 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
the casting was poor
not buying Ben Solo as any kind of badass, Damon is rocking a sweet LP mullet/beard combo and affleck looks like he transported from the set of the hunger games
I kept expecting a monty python sketch to break out.
The actual last battle was cool though
not buying Ben Solo as any kind of badass, Damon is rocking a sweet LP mullet/beard combo and affleck looks like he transported from the set of the hunger games
I kept expecting a monty python sketch to break out.
The actual last battle was cool though
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:18 am to cgrand
I watched it last night and enjoyed it. The only thing I didn’t like was Affleck’s casting. In several scenes he looked like Ric Flair. 
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:29 am to coolpapaboze
I’d have rather seen affleck and Damon as the two rivals and driver as the prince
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:26 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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The ambiguity is the entire intrigue. So many great dramas are built on, was he innocent was he guilty questions after the fact.
****Spoilers****
This is what frustrated me. Felt uncomfortable that I had to watch a clear rape, then they redid from the other view and I thought "Ahhhh ok this one they'll show its consensual and it'll be a puzzle to solve", and the second version is an even more clear rape. There was either no point, or they did a terrible job showing it.
Was disappointing, because as others have said, the cinematography was fantastic, and its the kind of movie I'd typically love.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:10 am to Pitch To Johnny
it was the rape from legris' perspective that didnt make any sense. regardless of his feelings for her, he forced his way in to another nobleman's home, stalked the guy's wife, raped her, and then told her to keep quiet or her husband would kill her.
i mean, how is that ambiguous?
and then his defense is just to deny it happened?
i mean, how is that ambiguous?
and then his defense is just to deny it happened?
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:05 am to cgrand
Well, it’s much more ambiguous than the actual account of the rape that didn’t make the film
In the movie it was the classic “she wanted it” justification.
I mean, that’s pretty standard, no?
In the movie it was the classic “she wanted it” justification.
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his defense is just to deny it happened?
I mean, that’s pretty standard, no?
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:20 am to JesusQuintana
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Well, it’s much more ambiguous than the actual account of the rape that didn’t make the film
but it's still rape
and even if she did lead him on (not at all well illustrated in his account), he still committed the crime of illegal use of another man's property. my point is that this is not at all a 'did he/didnt he" situation...he did, and his defense is to just deny it.
there's no suspense or intrigue there. the only tension is whether he will get away with it, which is fine. so whats the point of the three "truths"? carrouges was a brutal litigious a-hole, legris was a smarmy pussy, and the gal just...was.
at the end of the duel he swears an oath that he didnt rape he. i'm like...yes you did
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