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re: James Gunn Says ‘Superman’ Is An “Immigrant” Story About “Basic Human Kindness”

Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:45 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:45 am to
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green card superman


Again, abandoned infants do not need a green card. An infant found in the middle of a cornfield in the USA and adopted by 2 natural-born US citizens would be a legal US citizen by the very definition of the law. I realize that breaks whatever narrative you want to imagine here, but it's reality. He would not be considered an immigrant.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 10:47 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:50 am to
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dawgfan24348


I guess you haven't heard of dumpster babies? Here's one: LINK

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Jones, now a 36-year-old mother of three, was known as “Jan Winter” after she was discovered in a dumpster in a commercial area of Atlanta in January 1983. From what she knows, she was found shortly after birth with her umbilical cord tied off.

Jones then became a ward of the state and was placed in foster care before being adopted at age 1. The adoption agency gave her adoptive parents a Parade magazine that included a mention of “Baby Jan Winter” being found abandoned at a dumpster.


Good luck figuring out if she was in the USA legally.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 10:51 am
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:07 am to
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Again, abandoned infants do not need a green card.


Abandoned human infants. Clark is an alien and should be considered property of the landowner, like a meteorite. The Kent’s are guilty of a fraudulent adoption and claiming their property as a dependent.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:08 am to
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An infant found in the middle of a cornfield in the USA and adopted by 2 natural-born US citizens would be a legal US citizen by the very definition of the law.

Noone is disputing this. Adoption isnt exactly a simple process though. U.S. citizens can adopt an abandoned child from another country, but must navigate specific procedures related to intercountry adoption, which may involve the Hague Convention process or the Orphan process.

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He would not be considered an immigrant.

Only due to them committing fraud on the adoption papers.

According to USCIS when adopting someone from another country (or world such as Krypton), once the adoption is finalized, the child may be eligible to immigrate to the U.S. as an immediate relative of a U.S. citizen.

He is legally a US citizen and not an immigrant.

He is in actuality someone that was not born in the US and came to live here, making him an immigrant.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 11:12 am
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:10 am to
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Do you realize that a reporters job is making headlines/spreading bullshite to generate clicks?


I thought their job was to present the news and inform.

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Noone is arguing the media doesnt constantly bring up social issues....


Correct, but your first statement there does come awfully close to trying to justify it.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2386 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:10 am to
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Again, abandoned infants do not need a green card. An infant found in the middle of a cornfield in the USA and adopted by 2 natural-born US citizens would be a legal US citizen by the very definition of the law. I realize that breaks whatever narrative you want to imagine here, but it's reality. He would not be considered an immigrant.

He would be considered property of the US government.

The Kents illegally housed an alien.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62774 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:14 am to
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Only due to them committing fraud on the adoption papers.

According to USCIS when adopting someone from another country (or world such as Krypton), once the adoption is finalized, the child may be eligible to immigrate to the U.S. as an immediate relative of a U.S. citizen.


They would have to have known where he came from to have committed fraud.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62774 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:15 am to
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He would be considered property of the US government.

The Kents illegally housed an alien.


The government would have to approve the adoption...
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 11:16 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:15 am to
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Correct, but your first statement there does come awfully close to trying to justify it

No. You cant control what the reporters do. You can and should ignore them though as you know their entire purpose behind making inflammatory headlines is to have you come repost them places like here.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:17 am to
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They would have to have known where he came from to have committed fraud

Depends which origin story you go by. In one they claimed Martha gave birth to him during the winter, thats obvious fraud.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62774 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:23 am to
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Depends which origin story you go by. In one they claimed Martha gave birth to him during the winter, thats obvious fraud.


Ok, in that case it would be fraud. He still wouldn't be an immigrant and this still wouldn't be a story about an immigrant.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:27 am to
Immigrant just means he came from one place to live in another. He came from a different planet. That is different than being born here.

He isnt legally an immigrant, but he is an immigrant.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 11:29 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:27 am to
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Tell me more about how this legal adoption happened
what do you need to know, son?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:32 am to
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You take those social issue headlines created by the media and then spread them here.
i merely reacted to it.

When it is bullshite, I call it bullshite.

If you are referring to my Ironheart thread, that was a thread calling out the media, not Disney or the Ironheart show.

I even stated so many times, and you Kids just kept arguing a point i wasn't making. . .because something something anti-wokes, something something MAGA or whatever.

I didn't make this thread, I reacted to it. If you read my posts before you loons showed up, I was extremely moderate.

You guys need your boxes to fit in, bunch of Harley Riders.

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Noone is arguing the media doesnt constantly bring up social issues....
if an anti-woke says this same thing, you cry and vag all over the thread.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 11:35 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:35 am to
don’t ruin the Moderates victory lap.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:36 am to
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I thought their job was to present the news and inform.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
82099 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:39 am to
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Which broke the m/tv board bros quicker ?
the wokies are the unhinged ones in this thread, by a huge margin.

And that is crazy, considering the participants from the other side.

I am quite literally the most moderate voice in this thread, next to RDLSC.

I usually am in most threads I participate in.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:41 am to
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Ok, in that case it would be fraud.
Correct. But legally still a US citizen.

So saying he is a legal US citizen still holds up.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11693 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:44 am to
I wonder if that includes immigrant children, like the kind he used to tweet about wanting to have sex with.

But that was different, he was making humor *eyeroll*

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“I remember my first NAMBLA meeting. It was the first time I felt o.k being who I am. Some of those guys are still my BFF’s.” (April 4, 2009)

“I like it when little boys touch me in my silly place. Shhh!” (April 5, 2009)


This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 11:47 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 11:47 am to
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I am quite literally the most moderate voice in this thread

Moderates are useless. You buy right into the Democrats and Republicans gameplan of keeping the population fighting over meaningless social issues all day and therefore maintaining their vice grip on power.

"Dems think superman is an immigrant"

"Republicans think superman is maga"

Meanwhile the Big Beautiful Bill passes and DC carries on as usual knowing that either way (D or R) the corporations will maintain power. A divided population is their strength.

And yet tomorrow you'll be complaining about a female witcher or a female silver surfer like those are the important issues.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 11:50 am
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