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re: James Gunn Says ‘Superman’ Is An “Immigrant” Story About “Basic Human Kindness”

Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:54 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:54 am to
My point is we all know he is including illegal aliens when he says "immigrants."
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:56 am to
Don't assume that, though.

He is probably giving an anodyne statement during a movie promo.

Assigning extra meaning to get indignant is the path to the Nerdro----err, Darkside
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:05 am to
Superman is not a third world immigrant though he came from a society even more advanced than our own.
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:09 am to
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we all know he is including illegal aliens when he says "immigrants."



He said immigrant. You're literally making up a reason to get mad.

Superman came to America and set up as a permanent resident. He is an immigrant regardless of your feelings about James Gunn.

Pretty sure James Gunn knows enough Superman history to know he isnt an illegal so it would be dumb to assume thats what he meant.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 11:16 am
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:16 am to
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Superman is not a third world immigrant


at least a second world immigrant.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:19 am to
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I have never ever thought about Superman as an immigrant. Wow.
Created by two sons of Jewish immigrants. Written as an outsider who adopts America and Earth as his home.

John Byrne took over the character and attempted to do away with that and have Superman "born" on American soil after his ship landed here. With the recent reinterpretations of the Fourteenth Amendment, that would no longer necessarily make him a U.S. citizen. But then Byrne fricked everything up when it came to Superman.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:20 am to
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Superman is not a third world immigrant
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at least a second world immigrant.

Mister Miracle was a Fourth World immigrant.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:22 am to
Third World is another phrase that people forgot the meaning

First World- Democracy
Second World- Communism
Third World- Literally everything else

Now it's just used for "poor country"
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:22 am to
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Mister Miracle was a Fourth World immigrant.


Martian Manhunter is probably a second world immigrant. Mars is right there
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:24 am to
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Superman came to America and set up as a permanent resident.

No he didn't. He was sent to earth by his parents to escape an exploding planet. He happened to land in Kansas. Superman had no say in the matter. If anything, by virtue of escaping a natural disaster, he's an immigrant, is he not?
Posted by King George
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:26 am to
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When asked how the blockbuster may be perceived in predominantly red versus blue states, especially amid prevailing anti-immigrant and refugee sentiment, Gunn responded, “Yes, it plays differently,
Setting the foundation. Running the Hollywood playbook perfectly.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:31 am to
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Created by two sons of Jewish immigrants.


He was literally a rip off of John Carter of Mars.

-alien
-earthly biology gives him natural advantages
-leap tall buildings
-Super Strength.
-serials written 25+ years before Superman
-Siegel and Shuster say they were inspired by Edgar Rice Burroughs
- 1912, Burroughs had Jane call Tarzan a "superman"
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:33 am to
Superman was abandoned in America, and adopted by 2 US citizens.

He is not an illegal immigrant, he is a legal US citizen by virtue of legal adoption
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:33 am to
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quote:
Superman came to America and set up as a permanent resident.

No he didn't. He was sent to earth by his parents to escape an exploding planet. He happened to land in Kansas. Superman had no say in the matter. If anything, by virtue of escaping a natural disaster, he's an immigrant, is he not?

Lol so you agree with me that he's an immigrant.

And you agree with me that he came to America and set up permanent residence.

I didnt say he decided to come to America.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:38 am to
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Superman had no say in the matter.
if I toss someone across the border, they are not an illegal immigrant in the nation they were thrown into. . .so you are technically correct
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:41 am to
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No he didn't. He was sent to earth by his parents to escape an exploding planet. He happened to land in Kansas. Superman had no say in the matter. If anything, by virtue of escaping a natural disaster, he's an immigrant, is he not?


He's a legal American citizen by virtue of being adopted by two American citizens.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:44 am to
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Pretty sure James Gunn knows enough Superman history to know he isnt an illegal so it would be dumb to assume thats what he meant.


Pretty sure Gunn and all the other leftists are using Superman as a shield to try to void criticism and opposition to unfettered illegal immigration.

How about this as a Superman talking point? "Kal El came to this country, immediately assimilated himself by learning the language, customs and traditions of America - even proudly adopting the name, Clark Kent. He not only didn't become a drain on American society by getting a job, he selflessly went about doing what he could to protect and better the United States." Nah, the Ivy League educated, vapid white women and "above the fray!" moderates on here would never go for it.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:46 am to
Yeah even if their original adoption was fraudulant he is still legal unless someone went through the legal process to void/nullify his adoption.
Posted by xenythx
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:46 am to
Next you’re gonna tell me the X-Men are a parable for civil rights…
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:49 am to
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the X-Men are a parable for
the Jewish plight in the middle 20th Century. . .primarily surrounding the founding of Israel.
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