re: Is The Dark Knight Rises Nolan's worst film as a director?

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, I don't hate the courtroom scene, so the joke doesn't make sense. It's just evidence of the awkward tonal shifts in the movie.

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Well, it's really just a semi-comic cameo, and any concern about the tonal shift should only last until you realize people are, well, actually dying in its wake. I don't see a huge difference between this and the Joker's semi-comic tonal shifts that also end up being horrifying. Kangaroo trials are legitimately unpleasant.

Batman Begins is unreal.

I think I hate you.

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Batman Begins is unreal.

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Meh.

It's better than Star Trek (2009) and Bladerunner 2049.

It is not nearly as good as any Nolan original film - I don't know what else to tell you.

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You can tell me you understand that you're in a very, very small minority with that opinion.

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Probably with all those opinions. Doesn't make me wrong. Just makes me different - and I'm not doing it just to be different.

Batman Begins problems with me probably start with the fact that I saw TDK first. And, of course, I saw that 1 scene at a time, in disjointed order because it was playing in the PX on loop all the time when I was in Iraq.

So, when I finally went to watch BB - we hit problems number 2 and 3: Christian Bale and Liam Neeson.

Now, easier one first - I like Liam Neeson. I think he's a fine actor. But, he sometimes phones it in (pardon the pun) and like The Cartoon Menace, I felt he did so here.

Second - Bale. I get that he's a good actor, but as Batman, just didn't do it for me and Bruce Wayne was even worse. I think he was fantastic in The Prestige and American Psycho. But in these films? He was better in TDK and I predictably give most of that credit to Ledger for elevating the film beyond a mere comic book movie.

But I have trouble in any film where Bale plays the true protagonist or where we're supposed to root for the guy (other than The Prestige, where they did a good job of making the true bad guy likeable and the true good guy unlikeable, mainly through casting.)


ETA: As far as Batman Begins being worse than the original Nolan films, I don't think I'm in all that small a minority among Nolan fans. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I doubt it.

Memento, Inception, The Prestige and Interstellar are all highly regarded films. I would not consider the shorts or something like Dunkirk as an "original" feature, although he is listed as screenwriter on most/all of these as well.

Rotten Tomatoes of course has Intersteller and The Prestige last, but it also has TDKR over BB, so there's all of that (and no accounting for taste.)

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Oh yeah you think the guy breaking into the trade center, hacked something, and then left might have resulted in fraud?

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Of course but even in the real world it takes more than 24 hours to officially prove it. Not sure this is gripe worthy