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Is Heroes the biggest “epic fail” of a series ever?
Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:01 pm
This show was the tits back in the day. It was being hailed as genius and how everyone was connected, and being the heir apparent to LOST. The First Season is pretty damn good, but it has one of the worst (if not THE) finales of all time. I mean they puss out on every threat they’ve made on the show, they let Sylar live who really should have just been a catalyst villain, and then kill Linderman who was an objectively great villain for no real reason. Why kill this guy off in the first season, since he’s clearly an incredibly interesting villain:
Instead it focused on dumb bullshite from here, including a 15 hour world wide global eclipse. I didn’t make it past season 3, but really it might be one of the biggest missed opportunities in television. The writers talked a big game, but when it came to payoff, they had balls of a field mouse and brains of an ostrich.
quote:
Linderman: You see, I think there comes a time when a man has to ask himself whether he wants a life of happiness or a life of meaning.
Nathan: I'd like to think I have both.
Linderman: Can't be done. Two very different paths. I mean, to be truly happy, a man must live absolutely in the present. And with no thought of what's gone before, and no thought of what lies ahead. But, a life of meaning... A man is condemned to wallow in the past and obsess about the future.
Instead it focused on dumb bullshite from here, including a 15 hour world wide global eclipse. I didn’t make it past season 3, but really it might be one of the biggest missed opportunities in television. The writers talked a big game, but when it came to payoff, they had balls of a field mouse and brains of an ostrich.
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:07 pm to OMLandshark
Writers boycott killed it
Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:12 pm to OMLandshark
It certainly fell off a cliff. Unfortunately, it didn't recover like FNL or some other shows.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:15 pm to hawgfaninc
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Writers boycott killed it
I disagree with this. The end of the first season killed it. They should have let New York be destroyed. Instead they pussed out, and the series severely suffered for it. If Damon Lindelof/Carlton Cuse or David and Dan had written that season, no doubt they would have destroyed New York. It was the ballsy and correct choice. Instead they destroyed the series by not following through with the threats it issued.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:15 pm to OMLandshark
Pretty much, but their arc (amazing first season, rapidly declining from there) is not a unique one. Just look at "House of Cards"
Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:18 pm to kingbob
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Just look at "House of Cards"
I agree this is a strong contender as well. But at least House of Cards follows through with their threats to the audience. It’s just that they don’t know where to go from there.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:31 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
Instead it focused on dumb bull shite from here
You could be describing Battlestar.
Season 4 almost retroactively ruins the entire series.
Seasons 1 and 2 were talked about as awesome and genius and they were great.
Season 3 was okay...meh, where are we going from here?
Season 4 says...off the rails baby!
There are tons of shows that have similar arcs, two great seasons then it becomes just soap opera with red herrings that never come into fruition or are resolved, storylines are just dropped like they didn't matter.
I don't think either show is an epic fail of a series. But series tend to fall apart at the end...especially one's where the make the storylines more and more intricate.
Battlestar was tight the first 2 seasons, then it became very loose and they expanded their philosophy and writing to a bigger storyline that was all over the place.
You can still love both series and take certain episodes with a grain of salt.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:49 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I certainly liked Battlestar Galactica less and less as the show went on after season 2 but it's no where near as bad as everything beyond season 1 of Heroes. There was still some occasional good stuff in seasons 3 and 4 of BSG. With Heroes you could tell the show runners had no idea what to do with the overarching story.
When I think of disappointing shows that started off great and eventually fell apart, I think:
1. Heroes
2. Prison Break
3. Lost
4. Dexter
I think Dexter disappointed me most because when it was good, it was amazing, but that last season was truly awful. You had characters making uncharacteristically bad / illogical decisions solely for the sake of the plot which was mixed in with a near-incestuous relationship between the 2 main characters. It got embarrassingly bad. I'd put it above Heroes as an "epic fail."
When I think of disappointing shows that started off great and eventually fell apart, I think:
1. Heroes
2. Prison Break
3. Lost
4. Dexter
I think Dexter disappointed me most because when it was good, it was amazing, but that last season was truly awful. You had characters making uncharacteristically bad / illogical decisions solely for the sake of the plot which was mixed in with a near-incestuous relationship between the 2 main characters. It got embarrassingly bad. I'd put it above Heroes as an "epic fail."
Posted on 4/15/18 at 8:37 am to DieDaily
quote:this one.
2. Prison Break
Nothing after season 1 makes any damn sense.
quote:Had some pretty amazing seasons down the road. a couple bad ones
4. Dexter
quote:1st season was great. Last season was really great, too.
1. Heroes
All the seasons between were just shite.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 9:00 am to Roaad
Prison Break should have been a mini-series
Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:14 am to OMLandshark
#NoWalkingDeadNoCare
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:13 am to OMLandshark
I think the problem they had was they caught lightning in a bottle with the first season, up until a very flat finale, and then had no clue of where to go from there.
Zachary Quinto's character was very popular with the fans and they flinched from whacking him. So what do you do with him now? And the answer was, they didn't know.
Zachary Quinto's character was very popular with the fans and they flinched from whacking him. So what do you do with him now? And the answer was, they didn't know.
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