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improvisational dialogue in comedies these days
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:19 pm
Can anyone else tell how much comedies rely on improv these days? Jonah Hill was interviewed & discussing this. Even in Wolf of Wall Street.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:21 pm to DakForHe15man
It's Always Sunny is the king of improv on TV.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:22 pm to DakForHe15man
You think Caddyshack was 100% scripted?
Or Stripes?
Or Fletch?
It's always been this way.
Mumblecore has allowed probably more ad-lib to go into the final product because people seemed to like rambling incoherent self-deprecating nonsense these past 10 years.
Or Stripes?
Or Fletch?
It's always been this way.
Mumblecore has allowed probably more ad-lib to go into the final product because people seemed to like rambling incoherent self-deprecating nonsense these past 10 years.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:25 pm to Zamoro10
quote:Started out as a coming of age teen flick.
You think Caddyshack was 100% scripted?
Also Groundhog Day was originally suppose to be more wacky and silly. Anchorman has to be over 90% improv. There are so many examples, it's ridiculous.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:30 pm to abellsujr
I was on set of The Campaign a couple weeks... Every take Will & Zach did was different... Ferrell is king of Improv.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:35 pm to abellsujr
Donald Glover was the king when he was on Community
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:39 pm to D011ahbi11
They literally have no clue what Charlie Day is going to do half of the time on It's Always Sunny.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:45 pm to D011ahbi11
Donglover has said that most of Community is so well-scripted that it seems like it was improv, but he was just delivering his scripted lines. Amy Poehler has said the same about Parks.
Judd Apatow does a lot of the improv'd lines for his actors and they just film take after take of it.
Judd Apatow does a lot of the improv'd lines for his actors and they just film take after take of it.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:40 am to D011ahbi11
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Donald Glover was the king when he was on Community
The script would often have lines for all of the characters and then "Troy says something funny" and it would move on to the next scripted line.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:43 am to DakForHe15man
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I was on set of The Campaign a couple weeks... Every take Will & Zach did was different... Ferrell is king of Improv.
I don't think there was a single scripted line for him, John C. Reilly or Sacha Baron Cohen in "Talledega Nights". You could watch the other actors trying to deal with the "wtf did he just say?" aspect of the whole movie.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:29 am to DakForHe15man
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:55 am to Stogie
I really wanted to watch that but my phone says it's unplayable?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:56 am to Sir Drinksalot
Always sunny.
I love the outakes when they shok each other and start cracking up
I love the outakes when they shok each other and start cracking up
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:17 am to Sir Drinksalot
i know what the OP is saying. the fact that there's always been a bit of improv room in comedies is true but probably since the turn of the century you see movies (anchorman is probably an extreme example) where they set up shots and takes strictly for improv and will film multiple takes and take the best one.
basically i think it used to be more spontaneous and if it happned and was organic the director would leave it in. now it's more like a set up riff fest. which is fine, i'm not saying either way is better especially when you've got people that are really good at it.
basically i think it used to be more spontaneous and if it happned and was organic the director would leave it in. now it's more like a set up riff fest. which is fine, i'm not saying either way is better especially when you've got people that are really good at it.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:46 am to Sir Drinksalot
Huh. Works on my PC, but not on my phone. Weird.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:15 am to Zamoro10
quote:I have read that there very very few, if any, scripted lines for Jackie Gleason in Smokey and the Bandit. Buford T. Justice was all improv.
You think Caddyshack was 100% scripted? Or Stripes? Or Fletch? It's always been this way.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:30 am to Stogie
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One of my favorite youtubes...Will Ferrell improv bloopers LINK
God dammit I'm glad I can shut my office door.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:34 am to TDTGodfather
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i know what the OP is saying. the fact that there's always been a bit of improv room in comedies is true but probably since the turn of the century you see movies (anchorman is probably an extreme example) where they set up shots and takes strictly for improv and will film multiple takes and take the best one.
There are TV shows set up specifically for this. The head writers have a basic idea of where the plot is going and they give direction so that the actors know sort of how it should play out, but the actors have free rein otherwise to say and do what they want. Quick Draw on Hulu is one of these shows. I'm sure there are plenty more. I think the idea is that allowing a talented set of improv artists to have a goal in mind while simultaneously flexing their improv skills leads to more hilarity than a full scripted show.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:58 pm to TotesMcGotes
Donald was probably being modest then, because Dan Harmon straight up said "The script would often have lines for all of the characters and then "Troy says something funny" and it would move on to the next scripted line."
And if you watch the commentary Dan lets you know what lines Donald improvised
And if you watch the commentary Dan lets you know what lines Donald improvised
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:07 pm to D011ahbi11
Chris Pratt has a similar set up on Parks and Rec, especially with physical comedy. It'll literally say "Andy does something physical."
One of the best examples is when they go to eagleton to get Leslie's birth certificate and he tries to jump over a counter and ends up like breaking a computer and shite.
I think most of his bert maclin stuff is improvised as well
One of the best examples is when they go to eagleton to get Leslie's birth certificate and he tries to jump over a counter and ends up like breaking a computer and shite.
I think most of his bert maclin stuff is improvised as well
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