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re: If Seinfeld Got the Girls Treatments
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
Exactly. You think that being at the honors college at lsu and lsu law school qualify you as being surrounded by the best and brightest.
To sum up, you don't even know what you don't know.
To sum up, you don't even know what you don't know.
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:49 am to Bayou Sam
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You neither understand the show nor the link in the OP.
this is where you crack me up
i COMPLETELY understand the attempt at mockery in the OP, the problem is that it's so full of reaching that it's a mess
the article brought up the difference in a rich, famous, and funny alpha male banging hot chicks compare to a poor, fat, ugly, and dumb girl having a rich/handsome doctor fall in love with her
are you really defending that attempt at mockery when it completely fails in its goal?
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ou, like your wing-man Project P whatever, don't even understand who the link is satirizing.
me....or to put it better, who he thinks i am
i'm defending my points by showing that his points are stupid
again, why do you like the show? please give a detailed, justified response
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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again, why do you like the show? please give a detailed, justified response
If you give me something specific, I'll talk about why it's good or bad, what works about it or what doesn't. I'm not going to wax abstract about a whole show still in progress.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:51 am to Bayou Sam
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Basically the point was that despite all of hannah's hipsterish shite, she really wants to be the star of a rom com like most girls.
actually the point was that hannah is such a terrible and selfish person that when she gets comfortable in a dream scenario, that selfishness and egotistical domination of any scenario takes over. she can't even offer sympathy when another person offers a dark inner secret
accordingly, when she wakes up after this character soul-shitting, she's alone
we're supposed to feel bad for her, and wonder why she turned out so terrible and sympathize
there's a great meme that summarizes hannah in a much more efficient manner
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:53 am to Bayou Sam
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Exactly. You think that being at the honors college at lsu and lsu law school qualify you as being surrounded by the best and brightest.
well i was surrounded by a bunch of really smart people who are on the level of any other "elite" setting.
however, i don't use others to justify my existence. i was giving you an example of such
i'm an independent thinker. i used to be a hive mind like you, but i grew out of it. one day hopefully you can, too
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To sum up, you don't even know what you don't know.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Well, thanks. You've just shown to me in plain english that you don't understand the joke.
The article is not making fun of people like you, who "omg just don't get" the show. The article is making fun of the smart set blogosphere types who over-analyze and police this show in particular. Probably because it strikes a chord with that audience.
The article is not making fun of people like you, who "omg just don't get" the show. The article is making fun of the smart set blogosphere types who over-analyze and police this show in particular. Probably because it strikes a chord with that audience.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Wow. You totally misunderstood that episode.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:54 am to Bayou Sam
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If you give me something specific, I'll talk about why it's good or bad, what works about it or what doesn't. I'm not going to wax abstract about a whole show still in progress.
i asked you to tell me why you like the show. that's it. why do you like it? why do you watch?
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:58 am to Bayou Sam
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Wow. You totally misunderstood that episode.
you are looking at only the surface of what she said, and not what she was doing
he didn't reject her b/c she revealed that she was vulnerable/normal. that's actually the simple/chauvinist analysis
he rejected her because once she truly got comfortable, after her prince charming even saved her (from the terrible, evil, and complicated shower), she goes into full-blown ego-manic hannah. even when he offers his own dark/personal secret to her in order to connect, it's pushed aside so that hannah can talk about hannah
she wasn't rejected because she may want to be more normal than she lets on (Because that's fricking obvious to any non-retarded person and is symbolized in her dress). she was rejected because she's a completely selfish and terrible person
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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i asked you to tell me why you like the show. that's it. why do you like it? why do you watch?
I like a good bit of Hannah's dialogue, even though she's heinous. I like Ray, Shoshanna, and Adam's characters.
Every now and then really funny stuff happens.
I like watching these overeducated people fail and think its anyone's fault but their own.
The show is also riddled with flaws, and has some absolutely terrible people in it, but I still enjoy it every week for whatever reason.
See Sam, not so hard. Your turn.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
I dont watch this show but i love these argument threads
This post was edited on 3/5/13 at 9:59 am
Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:00 am to Bayou Sam
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The article is not making fun of people like you, who "omg just don't get" the show. The article is making fun of the smart set blogosphere types who over-analyze and police this show in particular.
that's me
and the standard reply for those who defend the show to criticize is this: you don't get it, and you liked similar shows before
guess what you have done in this thread: you have said "you don't get it, and you liked similar shows before"
Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
From your perspective, you are an independent thinker.
From my perspective, you generate the sort of theories that someone who doesn't know or read enough generates. You also have the peculiar tendency of this type to make grand hand-waving gestures at intellectual communities, thinkers, theories, etc. you think you know about, but really don't have even the beginning of experience in.
It's not because you're "dumb"--you aren't. It's because you are in this weird middle place where you know too much for your own good, but don't know enough to know that 1) you're really kind of an amateur in subjects of actual depth and 2) on subjects like this, you're "arguments" are really only thinly-disguised projections of prejudice onto the world.
Ironically, you resemble the characters in Girls, who as the other poster said, haven't quite learned to distinguish their own heads from the rest of the world.
From my perspective, you generate the sort of theories that someone who doesn't know or read enough generates. You also have the peculiar tendency of this type to make grand hand-waving gestures at intellectual communities, thinkers, theories, etc. you think you know about, but really don't have even the beginning of experience in.
It's not because you're "dumb"--you aren't. It's because you are in this weird middle place where you know too much for your own good, but don't know enough to know that 1) you're really kind of an amateur in subjects of actual depth and 2) on subjects like this, you're "arguments" are really only thinly-disguised projections of prejudice onto the world.
Ironically, you resemble the characters in Girls, who as the other poster said, haven't quite learned to distinguish their own heads from the rest of the world.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
No, you have demonstrated that you don't get it by your comments on the show, which drastically misunderstand what's going on.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:02 am to Bayou Sam
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No, you have demonstrated that you don't get it by your comments on the show, which drastically misunderstand what's going on.
there is no more of a generic, hive response than this. bra-vo
Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:04 am to Bayou Sam
quote:meh. I gave it a chance. watched the whole first season, and episodes of the 2nd, but the show just flat out sucks. I have completely lost interest
I'm sorry your prejudices deprive you of a very good show.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:05 am to bee Rye
He still hasn't explained what my prejudices are, so I don't know how they've affected how I feel about the show.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:06 am to Bayou Sam
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you generate the sort of theories that someone who doesn't know or read enough generates.
you mean i don't generate the accepted theories of those who write. i don't bind myself to the notion that their biases should tell me how to think
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You also have the peculiar tendency of this type to make grand hand-waving gestures at intellectual communities, thinkers, theories, etc. you think you know about, but really don't have even the beginning of experience in.
i think academia is similar to a cult and i hate the fact that it's become so hive-minded
it's kind of like our slanted press. both do a disservice to society and it just sucks that theses areas aren't dominated by objective, non-biased authors. but that's the vast majority of the population of both areas
i don't buy into their biases and accept their subjective slants. you're right about that. there is a reason for that, though
i used to. then one way i woke up and i look back and laugh at myself when i "bought in"
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you're "arguments" are really only thinly-disguised projections of prejudice onto the world.
lol. what prejudices do i have? this is funny
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Ironically, you resemble the characters in Girls, who as the other poster said, haven't quite learned to distinguish their own heads from the rest of the world.
well i have actually found success in life, and unlike the characters in girls, i can interact with minorities
Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:07 am to ProjectP2294
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He still hasn't explained what my prejudices are
i'm apparently prejudiced, too
Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:07 am to CrippleCreek
If you really want me to venture an opinion on the most general terms possible, I have a very similar reaction to you. These girls are overprivileged and, like Seinfield's characters, basically narcissistic, and the show satirizes them. But they are also sympathetic because, in fact, lots of young people are narcissistic and haven't yet distinguished between their minds and the world. They just do so on a particular stage--nyc in the hipster set (this is another reason I like the show--I see in its characters an artistic and of course exaggerated version of girls I know who have gone to nyc to make it).
But all that said, I still think these sorts of generalized observations are pretty useless and mostly just opinion without something particular to sink your teeth into.
But all that said, I still think these sorts of generalized observations are pretty useless and mostly just opinion without something particular to sink your teeth into.
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