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I Finally Watched Schindler’s List
Posted on 4/7/20 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 6:59 pm
I had made a couple of attempts in years past but they were aborted due to interrupting factors that hindered my ability to give this movie the commitment that it requires to absorb the subject matter.
It’s a very good movie. I don’t think it is one of the greatest movies of all time as many others do. I think it’s place is just outside that tier.
One aspect that I could not really appreciate was shooting the film in black and white. Spielberg said that he did so because he wanted to convey a historical and documentary aspect to the film and also that he didn’t want to make it visually beautiful. Yet the effect of such for me was that it created a sense of detachment, distance, and removal for me as a viewer. I felt a sense that I was watching something from long ago that made it feel almost like a relic or an archive; something to be studied from afar and from a distance.
I believe that filming in color would have brought me as a viewer closer to the story and people, would have placed me more in the events because they are seen as I see things. Thus I’m not viewing something historical but rather placed, or transported, into the history. The film could be in color and not be beautiful and I felt the subject would be conveyed better if it was not viewed as a historical documentary in its images. Not that the film was not incredibly disturbing and moving, as it very much was indeed, only that I feel these senses would have been more so if the content was in color.
It’s a very good movie. I don’t think it is one of the greatest movies of all time as many others do. I think it’s place is just outside that tier.
One aspect that I could not really appreciate was shooting the film in black and white. Spielberg said that he did so because he wanted to convey a historical and documentary aspect to the film and also that he didn’t want to make it visually beautiful. Yet the effect of such for me was that it created a sense of detachment, distance, and removal for me as a viewer. I felt a sense that I was watching something from long ago that made it feel almost like a relic or an archive; something to be studied from afar and from a distance.
I believe that filming in color would have brought me as a viewer closer to the story and people, would have placed me more in the events because they are seen as I see things. Thus I’m not viewing something historical but rather placed, or transported, into the history. The film could be in color and not be beautiful and I felt the subject would be conveyed better if it was not viewed as a historical documentary in its images. Not that the film was not incredibly disturbing and moving, as it very much was indeed, only that I feel these senses would have been more so if the content was in color.
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:06 pm to LuckyTiger
Did you make-out during it?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:15 pm to LuckyTiger
Liam Neeson drank a lot of cognac during that 3 hour movie.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:24 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Yes! And a more offensive spectacle I cannot recall!
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:27 pm to LuckyTiger
Ok Ted Turner.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:43 pm to Dr RC
Ted Turner?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:49 pm to LuckyTiger
And did it pop when the little girl in the red dress walked down the ghetto street?
I hope you can bear to read this, given that it's in black and white.
I hope you can bear to read this, given that it's in black and white.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:50 pm to LuckyTiger
Actually your post totally reminds me of this scene from The Muse...
YouTube
"Just remember make it in color, people love color."
YouTube
"Just remember make it in color, people love color."
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:02 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:
...in color...
Draw a moustache on Mona Lisa. What do you think the little girl in the red coat meant?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:06 pm to beachdude
And the flame too I suppose.
Didn’t have the effect for me that it had for you or the other poster.
Kind of a gimmick rather than subtle use.
Didn’t have the effect for me that it had for you or the other poster.
Kind of a gimmick rather than subtle use.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:07 pm to beachdude
I also think the Mona Lisa looks much better than it would in black and white.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:15 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:
Kind of a gimmick
Actually, you make a valid point as it was sort of used in another German/Dutch WW2 film The Girl With Red Hair at the end when the heroine is taken out to the Baltic dunes in drear light and lack of color and she’s shot. The drama is the contrast of the color of her hair and it’s the same as the red coat in Spielberg’s movie. I happen to think he stole it from the director of The Girl With Red Hair. But, that’s just like my opinion, man.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:00 pm to beachdude
That’s interesting, thanks.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:01 am to LuckyTiger
That makes one of us
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:57 am to LuckyTiger
NVM - red coat has been covered.
Schindler's List is a better film than Saving Private Ryan.
There - I said it.
Schindler's List is a better film than Saving Private Ryan.
There - I said it.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 8:59 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:19 am to Ace Midnight
I think SPR is better but of course reasonable people may disagree.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:21 am to LuckyTiger
quote:
had made a couple of attempts in years past but they were aborted due to interrupting factors that hindered my ability to give this movie the commitment that it requires to absorb the subject matter.
It’s a very good movie. I don’t think it is one of the greatest movies of all time as many others do. I think it’s place is just outside that tier.
One aspect that I could not really appreciate was shooting the film in black and white. Spielberg said that he did so because he wanted to convey a historical and documentary aspect to the film and also that he didn’t want to make it visually beautiful. Yet the effect of such for me was that it created a sense of detachment, distance, and removal for me as a viewer. I felt a sense that I was watching something from long ago that made it feel almost like a relic or an archive; something to be studied from afar and from a distance.
I believe that filming in color would have brought me as a viewer closer to the story and people, would have placed me more in the events because they are seen as I see things. Thus I’m not viewing something historical but rather placed, or transported, into the history. The film could be in color and not be beautiful and I felt the subject would be conveyed better if it was not viewed as a historical documentary in its images. Not that the film was not incredibly disturbing and moving, as it very much was indeed, only that I feel these senses would have been more so if the content was in color.
After reading that wall of text you stole in parts from a thesaurus, I've gathered that you are educated beyond your intelligence.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:16 am to LuckyTiger
quote:
Ted Turner?
He was a big proponent of colorizing black and white films in the 80s and 90s. It was a fairly large controversy at the time.
quote:
“The last time I checked, I owned the films that we’re in the process of colorizing,” said Ted Turner. “I can do whatever I want with them, and if they’re going to be shown on television, they’re going to be in color.”
The mercurial Atlanta media magnate took advantage of a $250-a-plate Beverly Hills fund-raiser Tuesday night to state his case in the controversy enveloping his efforts to color classic black-and-white films from Hollywood’s golden era. Turner’s plans have provoked at least two legal proceedings and a flurry of protests from film makers and critics.
Calling the current consternation over colorizing classic black-and-white films “a tempest in a little old teapot,” Turner waved aside protests aimed at Turner Broadcasting Systems Inc. and Marina del Rey-based Color Systems Technology.
“All I’m trying to do is protect my investment in MGM,” said Turner, who earlier this year paid more than $1.2 billion for the studio’s 3,650-title library of movies. He has announced plans to color such seminal black-and-white films as “Casablanca,” “The Maltese Falcon” and the John Garfield-Lana Turner “The Postman Always Rings Twice.”
Turner reiterated his stand that colorization is necessary because television advertising rates for black-and-white movies are lower than those for color movies. He insisted that colorization is a financial issue and not, as the protesters argue, an aesthetic one.
“I’m really shocked at the fuss,” he said. “I personally don’t think it makes that much difference in the end. I think editing these movies makes a hell of a lot more difference in how they look, especially when they’re chopped up by 20 or more minutes in order to fit into the time slots. Why aren’t people making a fuss about that?”
“Besides,” he said, “I like things in color. We see in color. Why didn’t they (the protesting film makers) make ‘The Sting’ in black- and-white if they’re so concerned about historical authenticity? I don’t see their point.”
Turner appeared to relish the controversy. After giving a brief interview for his own Cable News Network--at one point he asked his interviewer-employee, “Why don’t you ask me something about colorization?"--Turner grinned and added to the departing camera crew, “I’m colorizing ‘Casablanca’ just for controversy’s sake. Once people start watching the colored version, they won’t bother with the original.”
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This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 11:17 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:19 am to Ace Midnight
quote:
Schindler's List is a better film than Saving Private Ryan.
There - I said it.
by a wide, wide margin
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:21 am to Ace Midnight
quote:
Schindler's List is a better film than Saving Private Ryan.
There - I said it.
Is that supposed to be some controversial statement or something?
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