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re: House of the Dragon | S1 E9 | The Green Council
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:25 pm to LSUFAN227
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:25 pm to LSUFAN227
quote:the what was the point of barging in with her dragon in the 1st place? she could have just bounced
Haha, these people saying that Rhaenys should’ve ended the entire thing right there don’t get it. She didn’t do it for several reasons.
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:29 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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All this is a load of crap too cuz her beloved cousin's wife imprisoned her and kept her from her dragon all while rounding up and killing anyone who was sympathetic to Rhaenyra, his chosen heir. Any love between the two is lost when the Greens treat her like the enemy.
None of that means she wants to kill so many members of her own family in that manner. She got away and got her message across that they failed in keeping her locked up. That they messed up by trying to in the first place. She's taking her dragon to inform Rhaenyra about what happened and she wanted them to know that.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:31 pm to cgrand
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the what was the point of barging in with her dragon in the 1st place? she could have just bounced
Pride, to show strength, to put a little fear into them, to show them they failed in trying to keep her silent/away from Rhaenyra, etc.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:48 pm to Mickey Goldmill
House of The Dragon showrunners explain why Rhaenys doesn’t kill the Greens in a behind-the-scenes video
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Sapochnik: We needed a penultimate scene, so we tried to come up with: What’s the worst thing that could possibly happen at the coronation? And realized that it was a dragon to be let loose.
Condal: Rhaenys, the Queen who never was, she’s a triumphant dragon rider. We wanted a triumphal moment for her at the end of the season.
Sapochnik: We really wanted to make sure that there was meat on her character. Rhaenys was not passive, and it felt like this was an incredibly valuable moment, rather than have her just bear witness to something, be able to take part in it. But her moral standpoint becomes the reason for inaction rather than action.
Condal: She knows if she set fire to that dais, she ends any possibility of war, and probably sets peace throughout the realm, but I think probably doesn’t want to be responsible for doing that to another mother. And it’s a complex choice, and one that people might dispute or have a problem with. But that’s the choice Rhaenys makes in that moment.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:49 pm to Mickey Goldmill
The coronation was being held in the Sept of Baelor right? Then how did Meleys end up underneath the sept? The dragonpit is on a different side of the city from the sept
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:53 pm to SPEEDY
Sapochnik: We needed a penultimate scene, so we tried to come up with: What’s the worst thing that could possibly happen at the coronation? And realized that it was a dragon to be let loose.
Condal: Rhaenys, the Queen who never was, she’s a triumphant dragon rider. We wanted a triumphal moment for her at the end of the season.
there you go...it was all for show/spectacle
Condal: Rhaenys, the Queen who never was, she’s a triumphant dragon rider. We wanted a triumphal moment for her at the end of the season.
there you go...it was all for show/spectacle
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:56 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:It was the dragonpit.
The coronation was being held in the Sept of Baelor right? Then how did Meleys end up underneath the sept? The dragonpit is on a different side of the city from the sept
Don't think the sept has been built yet at this point.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:59 pm to Tiger Prawn
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The coronation was being held in the Sept of Baelor right? Then how did Meleys end up underneath the sept? The dragonpit is on a different side of the city from the sept
The Sept doesn’t get built until much later.
That’s the Dragonpit. Which we see the ruins of in GOT (in multiple seasons).
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:04 pm to cgrand
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there you go...it was all for show/spectacle
Yea and it was awesome.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:07 pm to ShootingsBricks4Life
Mysariah's comment about power sets up some big future events.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:17 pm to PassingThrough
The good news is that after next week you’ll only have to avoid spoilers for 2 years
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:38 pm to SPEEDY
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She knows if she set fire to that dais, she ends any possibility of war, and probably sets peace throughout the realm,
I wonder if they even read the book. That was a hasty coronation only attended by the small folk and what nobility was there in the city. War is coming no matter what.
You think the Hightowers, Baratheons, and Lanisters wouldn't respond to their kin being killed?
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:43 pm to cgrand
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there you go...it was all for show/spectacle
You are acting like saying something is for "show/spectacle" is a bad thing for a tv show like this. She wanted to get her dragon and get out of there, but wanted to crash their party in the process as an FU for locking her up. She considered burning them, but decided against it. She made her presence/power known so she can now fly away, not feeling defeated or with her tail between her legs, but with some sense of pride.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:56 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The Sept doesn’t get built until much later
Can you catch me up on the religion at this time? Seems like Alicient just started worshipping the 7 midway through the season. Was that not the popular religion at the time? And there's a weirwood in Kings Landing that I don't remember being there in GOT. Did the Targaryens worship the old gods at one time?
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:03 pm to Yeti_Chaser
There was a smaller sept in KL, and if you recall in earlier episodes, Rhaenyra and Alicent were there after her mother died. This is also where they found Aegon this episode. There was a bigger sept, but Maegor tore it down to build the Dragonpit.
The weirwood in KL is a bit odd as based on GOT, there aren't supposed to be any south of The Neck other than possibly on the island in the God's Eye. There are stumps around High Heart.
The weirwood in KL is a bit odd as based on GOT, there aren't supposed to be any south of The Neck other than possibly on the island in the God's Eye. There are stumps around High Heart.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:05 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Also I'm glad we got confirmation this episode that Otto was doing what he wanted and was going to usurp the throne regardless of Alicient's opinion. Seems some here felt that Otto would not have the power to do this for some reason.
It'll be interesting to see what Aemonds plans are. There's clearly a hint of jealousy at being the 2nd son and he knows he would make a better king. Does he try to get rid of Aegon at some point? And if Aegon begins to listen to Otto and becomes as cruel as they were leading us to believe, does Alicient try to help Aemond supplant him? I think there's still definitely a path where this war splits into more than just 2 sides
It'll be interesting to see what Aemonds plans are. There's clearly a hint of jealousy at being the 2nd son and he knows he would make a better king. Does he try to get rid of Aegon at some point? And if Aegon begins to listen to Otto and becomes as cruel as they were leading us to believe, does Alicient try to help Aemond supplant him? I think there's still definitely a path where this war splits into more than just 2 sides
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:07 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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Can you catch me up on the religion at this time? Seems like Alicient just started worshipping the 7 midway through the season. Was that not the popular religion at the time? And there's a weirwood in Kings Landing that I don't remember being there in GOT. Did the Targaryens worship the old gods at one time?
The Faith of the Seven had been around since the Andals and started in Essos (across the sea). The Hightowers were known as one of the first families (before Alicent) to adopt the faith over the Old Gods.
Targaryens were traditionally Old God folks but converted to the Faith under Aegon I. At one point during Maegor the Cruel’s reign he banned the Faith and there was an uprising as a result. The Faith wasn’t a big fan of polyamory, which some Targaryens obviously embraced and that tended to cause issues. But they remained converted to the Faith for several generations.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:10 pm to Sus-Scrofa
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I’m surprised Aemond didn’t jump down the hole, get Vhagar, and go after her.
He doesn't want to get into too much danger right now. He knows that Aegon is the only thing standing between he and the throne. He also knows that Aegon's behavior means he can meet a untimely death sooner rather than later.
Someone needs to shank Aegon for letting his small son and other bastards be meat for the fighting pit. Out of all the depraved things I have seen on this show and GOT that scene was the most absolute gut wrenching moment. The split second where they showed the young boys face in that holding cell awaiting his sad future.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:12 pm to PassingThrough
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The weirwood in KL is a bit odd as based on GOT, there aren't supposed to be any south of The Neck other than possibly on the island in the God's Eye. There are stumps around High Heart.
There aren't wild ones growing but some are kept in Godswoods (within castle walls).
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:14 pm to BluegrassBelle
I wonder if that was one of the Green's dragons Daemon was singing to in the trailer. Is that a taming technique?
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 2:15 pm
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