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Posted on 1/28/16 at 6:55 pm
Posted by MrsWiggles
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 6:55 pm
Renewed for 5th season
House of Cards Renewed for Season 5 But One Major Player Will Be Missing
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Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:23 pm to
I'm guessing his artistic integrity got the best of him. Season 3 should have been the final with Frank's fall. It's not entertaining to see Frank flounder at the top. Season 3 was pure filler, and I foresee Season 4 being more of the same. Once Frank becomes President, all that's really left is for him to fall. They should have fast forward 7 years where Frank has actually become a good president, all that to come crashing down once Lucas gets out of prison and Rachel comes out of the woodwork.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:25 pm to
Meh
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:35 pm to
I loved the first two seasons. Started season 3 and can't bring myself to finish watching it. Boring.
Posted by Udvarnoky
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:13 pm to
Never been a massive fan of this, but I stuck with it because I figured it was reaching its end game. That they could just replace the showrunner suggests it's not the closed-ended show I thought and Netflix will just keep making seasons until Spacey has gotten bored. I'm not in the market for that.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 8:15 pm
Posted by MrsWiggles
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:16 pm to
I'm desperately hoping season 4 will be better... with Claire leaving I'm interested to see what happens
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:18 pm to
This show is terrible about halfway through season 2.

And they made it to season 5? lol
Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:19 pm to
Claire needs to find a train
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:24 pm to
Season 3 was terrible. I get why they did it I guess, but it still sucked. We don't want to see Frank floundering around. We want to see him being a snake and dominating.

I think they are going to have Claire running against Frank.
Posted by Udvarnoky
Member since May 2011
741 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:29 pm to
To me the problem with this show is that it's ultimately a trashy soap opera that conducts itself like a prestige drama. It's as pulpy and ridiculous as "24" but it thinks it's "The Sopranos" so it ends up being pretentious when it should be fun.

The other thing is that it's gone on way too long. The British miniseries it's based on told its entire tale in 12 episodes. Now we know the American version will last at least 65 episodes and for what? More wheel-spinning? It's got nothing insightful to say about politics and it says that same nothing over and over again. They should have made this the last season and let Spacey ham it up as Frank falls hard.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:31 pm to
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I think they are going to have Claire running against Frank.


Which would be the single biggest "Jumping the Shark" moment in television history. All Claire has done is ruined peace talks with Russia by supporting a gay drama queen and failed miserably as the Ambassador to the UN. It will be simply absurd, and I sadly agree this is going to happen. If and when it does, I won't watch another episode.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:33 pm to
Indeed, he got to the top way too quickly. What people loved about the first two seasons, and season 1 for me personally, was to see him at a relatively high (but not that high) position in government. From there he manipulated people at all levels to get what he wanted and to advance.

He got to the top and now we see him with no control in his personal and professional life. Who knows... maybe the writers are trying to portray just how hard being the POTUS is and just how much push back the position gets on everything it does.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108293 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

To me the problem with this show is that it's ultimately a trashy soap opera that conducts itself like a prestige drama. It's as pulpy and ridiculous as "24" but it thinks it's "The Sopranos" so it ends up being pretentious when it should be fun.


Agreed. The writers think they're much smarter than they really are. I couldn't believe in Season 3 they did the "Break a couple of eggs to make an omelet" metaphor. I surely thought it was implying something deeper like Claire being pregnant, but nope, it's just one of the simplest metaphors ever, and they treat the scene with the utmost tension and drama that they act like they dropped a bombshell on the likes of the LOST Season 3 finale. These writers truly think they're on the level of the Wire and Breaking Bad, but it couldn't be further from the truth. They are mediocre writers at best that happened to get one great season off the ground.
Posted by Udvarnoky
Member since May 2011
741 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:40 pm to
What really annoys me is that...there's nothing wrong with being a trashy soap opera! If they would just go full ham with the craziness and double-down on shite like Frank whizzing on his dad's grave and spitting on Jesus statues it could be a bananas good time. But somehow they convinced themselves they're making this sophisticated drama and so you end up with a lot of posturing about examining the corruption of the political landscape when the writers can't back up their wannabe navel-gazing with any substance. The show is handsomely shot, but it's utterly hollow. End it already.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:43 pm to
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I loved the first two seasons. Started season 3 and can't bring myself to finish watching it. Boring.


+1. Painful. It would take a miraculous and extended Kate Mara appearance to get me back into it.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25863 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:46 pm to
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and Breaking Bad


The guys who wrote a 60 minute episode of chasing a fly?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108293 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

What really annoys me is that...there's nothing wrong with being a trashy soap opera! If they would just go full ham with the craziness and double-down on shite like Frank whizzing on his dad's grave and spitting on Jesus statues it could be a bananas good time. But somehow they convinced themselves they're making this sophisticated drama and so you end up with a lot of posturing about examining the corruption of the political landscape when the writers can't back up their wannabe navel-gazing with any substance. The show is handsomely shot, but it's utterly hollow. End it already.


I am just becoming convinced that the show is now being written by 16 year olds who won a "creative writing" contest. If you think of yourself as a realistic political thriller, you don't have the First Lady just a few months in office with no other diplomatic background become the Ambassador to the UN. That's just nonsense, and will be even more nonsensical if she runs for President.

And the grave pissing and spitting on Jesus. Could you really not come up with anything more creative than this? Yes we know Frank hates his dad and has a huge God complex, but that's the most uncreative way you could possibly relay it. Really, it's as if they asked the question on how they can show these parts of Frank's personality, and some guy points out the most obvious way to do it, and then they just run with it without thinking it through at all. I wouldn't be shocked if they have Frank fishing with one of his opponents next season, he starts relaying information to him, has Doug kill them, and then goes on a tangent about teaching a man to fish.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108293 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:51 pm to
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The guys who wrote a 60 minute episode of chasing a fly?


I'm not a fan of the episode and took a month long break in the middle of that episode, but at least it was some sort of a risk and not just bullshite symbolism that people say on a daily basis.
Posted by Udvarnoky
Member since May 2011
741 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:51 pm to
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The guys who wrote a 60 minute episode of chasing a fly?



One of the best episodes, actually. Thanks for mentioning it. Rian Johnson is awesome.

Also, regardless of how you feel about "Fly" let's not be disingenuous and pretend that was a normal episode or that the other 61 episodes of Breaking Bad weren't pretty damned plot propulsive. Not that a show must be plot propulsive to be good, but trying to compare House of Cards favorably in that regard is laughable.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 8:52 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108293 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:19 pm to
You know the more I think about the eggs from House of Cards, the more frustrated I become. Seriously, look at this garbage: LINK. All that happened was Claire throws Frank under the bus to become Ambassador to the UN, and then the show acts like cracking eggs is just as dramatic and incredible as "Rosebud" was in Citizen Kane. There is nothing we learn here and only a moron would think that is actually dramatic instead of perplexing and off-putting as hell. If it's a soap opera, sure, but not for a show that thinks of itself as the Wire.

And thinking it through, LOST also utilized someone frying eggs to much greater effect: LINK. Sayid is taken against his will by an unknown loan shark, who turns out to be the biggest monster in the LOST universe. He offers to make Sayid some eggs, even going so far as offering to poach them for him, and repeatably offers eggs to him. This is kind of a test for Sayid: if Sayid accepts, then Keamy is going to have his way with him (mentally and physically) because he was dumb enough to accept them; if Sayid doesn't accept them, then it shows that Sayid is actually intelligent and sees him for the monster he actually is. And he eats in front of him trying to exert dominance over him telling Sayid that he is really meaningless to him and he is a no one. It tells you a lot more about the scene and the characters than Claire just breaking an egg to make an omelette.
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