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re: Heath Ledger & The Dark Knight Rises

Posted on 7/3/18 at 11:58 pm to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60069 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 11:58 pm to
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There was no plan.


I agree...Heath passed away while Nolan was still putting together TDK. I doubt he was thinking so far ahead. I'm sure Heath would've been in the sequel, but as a secondary villain.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22768 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:47 am to
I think they had an idea or outline of how the final film was going to be. I think the Joker would’ve been used as almost an ally to Batman against Bane. Maybe Bane frees the Joker to help tire Batman out before breaking him. Then the Joker dislikes the reality of Bane controlling everything and it becomes the enemy of my enemy is my friend type deal for Batman. Maybe something like that.

I have zero doubt they would’ve brought The Joker back though. With his line about “We’re destined to do this forever” you gotta think they had some intent to have him return. Not only that, I’m sure they knew it make them more money.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 12:49 am
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
14183 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:46 am to
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With his line about “We’re destined to do this forever” you gotta think they had some intent to have him return.


You guys are putting too much stock into this quote. I'm fairly confident it's more of a call out to the fact that Batman and Joker have always been adversaries throughout the history of the comic books.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21041 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:18 am to
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What I remember hearing was that the plot would be the same, but with the Joker instead of Scarecrow holding court. In other words, a cameo, or maybe at best a secondary hero. The primary plot would have remained Bane.




I would have absolutely hated that.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21041 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:22 am to
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You guys are putting too much stock into this quote. I'm fairly confident it's more of a call out to the fact that Batman and Joker have always been adversaries throughout the history of the comic books.


Agreed
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
14183 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:28 am to
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I would have absolutely hated that.


Yeah it would have been dumb and a waste of the character. I can say with 99% certainty that this was not the plan and whoever started the rumor is full of shite
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
12542 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 5:59 pm to
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Someone recut a part of DKR where Catwoman blasts through the wall on the bike taking out Bane...it is the blast then you hear the laugh...then out of the dust comes the Joker and he says, "See, I told you that you and I were going to do this forever."


Link?
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 6:02 pm to
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I think the Joker would’ve been used as almost an ally to Batman against Bane. Maybe Bane frees the Joker to help tire Batman out before breaking him. Then the Joker dislikes the reality of Bane controlling everything and it becomes the enemy of my enemy is my friend type deal for Batman. Maybe something like that.

Taking out Bane together & then a clashing of idiologies would've been redundant & just not fit well for the history of the series imo. Maybe something like 3 factions against each other (Bane, Joker, Batman)
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
21593 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:31 pm to
My only contribution to this thread is that OML doesn’t know what the frick he’s talking about.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59148 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:47 pm to
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Just makes me infuriated that Jared Leto is killing the joker that Ledger made so goddamn good.



seriously. they should get real actors in these movies instead of amateurs. Get brad pitt for batman and tom hanks for the joker
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