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re: Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire is on TV right now
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:44 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:44 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Harry and Hermione should have ended up together.
I think JK's thinking was Harry didn't need Hermione. Ron absolutely needs Hermione. I like Harry pairing with Luna because they were both different than others, and she brought a certain calmness to his hectic life.
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Posted on 9/1/20 at 5:13 pm to sportsaddit68
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I think JK's thinking was Harry didn't need Hermione. Ron absolutely needs Hermione.
She actually regrets this choice now. She doesn't think Ron would have kept Hermione happy. He was too simple to make their relationship work, aka stupid and smart don't work in the long run.
This post was edited on 9/1/20 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 9/1/20 at 5:53 pm to ell_13
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While the 6th missed completely on what should have been the focus of the film (Voldemort’s history), I actually enjoyed it for what it was and the added humor after the emo-fest that was OotP. Slughorn was great casting.
6th is the least true to the books. So it took me awhile to get over the lack of vlodermort history, the added confrontation scene at the burrow to give pointless action to the movie, the excessive awkward teen love scenes that ruined the diadem plot in the final book, and the changing of the dumbledore death scene to where harry was a passive bystander instead of the book portrayal.
With that said, it has the best comic relief scenes in the series especially with the liquid luck scene. And the scenes with slughorn are all well done. So I still enjoy watching it despite the disservice the books.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 6:19 pm to sportsaddit68
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I agree. But I also didn't like Harry with her in the book either so I'm a little bias. I like Harry and Luna together
Me and my Asian fever wanted Harry and Cho all the way. Mostly to see more Cho in the movies. But also because the Weasley clan sucks arse outside of the twins and Ginny, in books and movies, vacillated between boring and annoying. Relationship made no sense.
That leaves either the badass quidditch Asian or Hermione. Both of whom should have been the options.
But then, JK is arse with that kind of writing. She did Tonks character dirty after all.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 7:09 pm to sportsaddit68
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I agree. But I also didn't like Harry with her in the book either so I'm a little bias. I like Harry and Luna together.
And the thing is you don’t have to change almost anything in the overall plot for that to happen. OotP I don’t think you have to change a line since she was his emotional support throughout the story when the rest of his friends largely fail at it and he is also her emotional support.
In HBP keep the Quidditch game where she does the commentary, Harry invites her to Slug Club, and once there that’s when he starts developing feelings for her instead of Ginny. Have them kiss and date as Ginny and Harry did, only to break up with her all the same to hunt Horcruxes.
Then in DH, Snape reluctantly tells Voldemort that Harry and Luna were dating, Voldemort abducts Luna from Hogwarts, and tries to send out a message for Harry to surrender himself for Luna’s freedom. Malfoy Manor goes the same, except from Gringotts forward she joins the trio, Luna herself destroys the Diadem (lame in the books that Goyle did it accidentally), and her and Harry end up together in the end. Very, very little you have to change in the books for this to happen, and it was far more organic of a relationship and potential love than Ginny was.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 8:52 pm to OMLandshark
I feel like I want to have a beer with you for that. Lol I am 1000% team Luna.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 9:15 pm to sportsaddit68
The thing is out of 5000 pages you don't have to edit more than 250 for that to work, and most of those subtly.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 9:43 pm to ell_13
quote:Yep the dementors and Lupin werewolf are horribly created. The werewolf is just bad
The dementors and Lupin-turned-werewolf were nothing like I imagined
Posted on 9/1/20 at 10:13 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Harry and Hermione should have ended up together. Was it obvious? Yes. But, readers and viewers don’t always need expectations subverted
She phrased it as "I wanted to see the sidekick get a win" or something but even setting aside the weird notion of building Hermione as a strong, ambitious woman then "awarding" her to someone, I think she had written herself into a corner with Ron.
Ron was the gateway to everyday life among wizards, but halfway through the series, Harry and Hermione have learned all that shite. She fricked up by making him a bad student, an unexceptional athlete, having no discernable talents, and always sulking or whining.
He could have been talented enough to be wooed by Voldemort (mirror Percy being an a-hole) while sulking in a shocking betrayal/redemption arc or
He could have been the charming and affable heart of the group whose death or injury forces the remaining members to take action or
He could have been a loyal and capable warrior who played a pivotal role in the defeat of Voldemort due to his strength, speed, athleticism, and reliability.
She shoehorned in some stuff to kinda sorta fit the last one, but the last book was so bad. After reading the first 6 multiple times, I dragged myself through the last one once. Everything was so badly done, it was painful.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 10:22 pm to OMLandshark
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Very, very little you have to change in the books for this to happen, and it was far more organic of a relationship and potential love than Ginny was.
I admit to being a fan of the Harry-Ginny pairing, solely on the strength of HBP as a novel. In the context of the series it felt sudden and underdeveloped, but confined to just the one book, the realization that characters have been growing and changing at Hogwarts while Harry (and the reader) has been so focused on himself is a fresh and interesting take. Ginny's emergence as a strong-willed character in Books 5 and 6 made her a formidable match for Harry - probably too formidable. There's no way the Ginny of HBP acquiesces to Harry leaving to find the Horcruxes alone without her.
Harry-Luna always seemed too fanservice-y to me. Luna should have been used more, but a romance is the least interesting thing I could read about her doing.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 10:25 pm to Muthsera
Ginny is a completely different character between the books to where she’s unrecognizable. She went from shy to spunky and those are her only characteristics. I have never read Twilight, but I have a hard time believing the romance in that was worse than Harry and Ginny. They were the real fanbase ship because they don’t belong together. No chemistry whatsoever.
Posted on 9/2/20 at 3:22 am to ell_13
quote:His reaction was probably the most out of place and wrong thing in the entire series. Makes me
His reaction to Harry’s name being in the goblet was simply wrong. 100% wrong.
every time Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:32 am to Muthsera
The movie Ginny had no charisma whatsoever. In the books she was described as popular and attractive, even among the Slytherin boys, but the actress in the movies was a big meh. Mediocre looks at best.
Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:46 am to OMLandshark
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The thing is out of 5000 pages you don't have to edit more than 250 for that to work, and most of those subtly.
I think by that point Rowling was suffering from a bad case of "I'm a great writer" itis. The books ballooned up in length and developed a sort of tunnel vision if you will. "I planned for Ron and Hermione to get together and Harry and Ginny to get together and by God I'm going through with that even though it increasingly makes no sense."
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