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re: GoT S03E06 - "The Climb" **NON BOOK READERS ONLY PLEASE**
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:14 pm to iluvdatiger
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:14 pm to iluvdatiger
Sam basically fits the lovable, bumbling idiot archetype. Actually, every time I see him I always think of this character:
My point is, he's fat, pretty much incompetent, and impulsive. He does things that make you scratch your head at times, but in the end he comes through with a moment that either endears you to him or has large ramifications for the grand plot -- but it's never intentional. Maybe he discovers the White Walkers have a weakness to dragon glass because one lunges at him and he accidentally shanks it with the dagger. Someone puts 2 and 2 together, weakness is discovered, and down the road with the help of Daenerys/dragons weapons are forged to combat the threat from beyond the Wall.
Incompetent fat guy archetype fulfilled.
My point is, he's fat, pretty much incompetent, and impulsive. He does things that make you scratch your head at times, but in the end he comes through with a moment that either endears you to him or has large ramifications for the grand plot -- but it's never intentional. Maybe he discovers the White Walkers have a weakness to dragon glass because one lunges at him and he accidentally shanks it with the dagger. Someone puts 2 and 2 together, weakness is discovered, and down the road with the help of Daenerys/dragons weapons are forged to combat the threat from beyond the Wall.
Incompetent fat guy archetype fulfilled.
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:30 pm to Matisyeezy
quote:Did they ever actually state it was formed by dragons? Or are we all just assuming it is because they called it that? My question would be is it formed by like a volcano or something similar and call it dragon glass because it is from a high intensity heat source (lava)?
dragon glass
Having said that I now realize that a dragon could be said heat source.
Conundrum in my opinion, is the name to be taken literally or is it just a cleaver name for something formed in another manner (dragonless)….
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:30 pm to 225rumpshaker
I think they said it. Let me check.
ETA: Season 2, Episode 8 is when they find the cache. They don't say anything about it, so maybe it's an errant assumption. For some reason I felt like the dragon glass/obsidian was principally formed by dragon fire on stone in Westeros.
ETA: Season 2, Episode 8 is when they find the cache. They don't say anything about it, so maybe it's an errant assumption. For some reason I felt like the dragon glass/obsidian was principally formed by dragon fire on stone in Westeros.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:32 pm to CocomoLSU
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Also, when she told him that the others are just footsoldiers, all I could think about was TMNT and the Foot Clan.
omfg
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:33 pm to 225rumpshaker
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Did they ever actually state it was formed by dragons
Don't think they have given much of a backstory on it. However, the name, would lead us to believe dragons play a role in it's formation.
More important to me is, where did this stockpile that they found at the fist of the first men come from?
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:35 pm to iluvdatiger
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Also, the scene with Sam telling the girl about the dragon glass he found...Do y'all think it was made using dragon fire?
I was under the assumption that the reason it is called dragonglass is because it was made from dragon fire.
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And if so, can he use it to kill White Walkers since fire is the only thing that kills them?
Good question. My guess would be yes, but I have no idea.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:36 pm to LSUSilverfox
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I missed nothing. Willy Wonka and Veruca Salt.
Right, but I was quoting Super Troopers, not WWatCF. gudeaux's quote was from ST (then my line).
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:37 pm to LSUSilverfox
quote:Perhaps those three knuckle heads stumbled upon some sort of sacred ground from the first men.
My important to me is, where did this stockpile that they found at the fist of the first men come from?
I know they found it digging, but maybe after so many years the actual landmark or markers were destroyed. Then gus gus and friends were lucky enough to find it.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:37 pm to iluvdatiger
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can he use it to kill White Walkers since fire
If so, nobody seems to realize this because in the first episode of the season when Sam gets attacked he certainly didn't try pull this dagger out.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:39 pm to CocomoLSU
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Right, but I was quoting Super Troopers, not WWatCF
Well there are no snozzberries without Mr. Wonka. Good day sir.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:39 pm to CocomoLSU
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I was under the assumption that the reason it is called dragonglass is because it was made from dragon fire.
I don't think it will matter in the overall scheme of things because we know the blonde girl actually has dragons that she can presumably use to kill all of the White Walkers. I would imagine she will kill all of the White Walkers and become the next queen but I could be very wrong.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:40 pm to LSUSilverfox
quote:I don't think he had the dagger then.
If so, nobody seems to realize this because in the first episode of the season when Sam gets attacked he certainly didn't try pull this dagger out.
Also, Sam clearly knew some history about the first men. The other guys were all clueless and pretty much appear to be uneducated common criminal type guys. So Sam being the only smart person north of the wall may very well be the only person to figure it out.
Boom purpose for Sam is identified. He is the only person north of the wall that actually knows some history.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:43 pm to DanTiger
She has three dragons. My impression is that the number of Walkers is growing by the day, and it's already a sizable amount. And if they "turn" people...you're looking at a potentially massive invasion force. Then factor in the size of Westeros, it becomes implausible that three dragons could be enough to completely eradicate the forces from beyond the Wall. The dragons will be important, I'm certain of that, but I just can't imagine them being enough on their own.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:51 pm to Matisyeezy
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She has three dragons. My impression is that the number of Walkers is growing by the day, and it's already a sizable amount. And if they "turn" people...you're looking at a potentially massive invasion force. Then factor in the size of Westeros, it becomes implausible that three dragons could be enough to completely eradicate the forces from beyond the Wall. The dragons will be important, I'm certain of that, but I just can't imagine them being enough on their own.
That makes sense but perhaps the Walkers cannot advance until the Winter spreads. I also think that the arrowhead fat boy has will play some role in his life being saved but may not have a purpose in the overall scheme of things. It willbeinteresting to find out. The story North of the wall is certainly one of the most boring to me so i would love to see more White Walkers. My favorite storyline is the dwarfs and I look forward to seeing him marry the redhead although i would rather see it happen and do away with all of the build up.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:57 pm to LSUSilverfox
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Well there are no snozzberries without Mr. Wonka. Good day sir.
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Watch the first 30/45 seconds and the last 30 seconds or so. You'll be caught up then.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 2:03 pm to CocomoLSU
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You'll be caught up then.
I'm quite familiar with your reference but thanks for making sure.
Can we get back to hunting down bookreaders and discussing the show?
Posted on 5/6/13 at 2:10 pm to LSUSilverfox
you seem like a lot of fun.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 2:13 pm to CarRamrod
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you seem like a lot of fun.
Shut up radio.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 2:18 pm to LSUSilverfox
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you seem like a lot of fun.
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Shut up radio.
We've got a little Broken Lizard v Happy Madison Messican standoff going here.
My money's on HM.
Don't judge me Monkey.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 2:20 pm
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