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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:24 pm to
killed, continuously manipulated, made to do things he will regret, etc.

i just see him being a puppet (as is already hinted at). usually "decent" kings dont last very long in these waters. and as we saw, tommen on the throne dsiturbs Stannis even more so than ever.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:27 pm to
Arya older than Bran? I had always thought it was the other way around. Not that it really makes any difference.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:28 pm to
Exactly; Ned went to Riverrun to marry Cat (since Brandon had died) and he fulfilled his duties in the marital bed that night and left Cat pregnant from their wedding night.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:29 pm to
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Not sure yet in what way he could get fricked over unless LF is somehow involved.


What are the odds of LF being involved in the death of some high level lord?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:29 pm to
In the books, Arya was 9 and Bran was 7. I think in the show, Arya started off at 11 and Bran at 9.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:30 pm to
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Arya was 9 and Bran was 7. I think in the show, Arya started off at 11 and Bran at 9.


frick HBO AND THEIR CHANGES!!
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:30 pm to
I guess the whole warging thing makes him seem older and more mature.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:31 pm to
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What are the odds of LF being involved in the death of some high level lord?



after last night? pretty damn high.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:35 pm to
It's 100%
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:39 pm to
i thought he was asking in the future if it happened.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:42 pm to
Yeah. Wiki says by 2 years.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:59 pm to
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i thought he was asking in the future if it happened.


It was more sarcasm. Guess I could have included a , but I figured it was pretty obvious.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:00 pm to
my meter is off today obviously
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:01 pm to
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my meter is off today obviously


Off to the OT with you for calibration.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:05 pm to
from the preview they made it seem like Tywin thinks Tyrion did it. was that just a show?
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:06 pm to
One thing the show has done right is aging up characters. It was really creepy reading about Dany and Drogo, for instance . And the characters act so much older than their ages in the books--how they look in the show in terms of age and maturity is how I picture them when I read.
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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:08 pm to
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i thought he was asking in the future if it happened.


Oh, I thought he meant so far. He's disposed of 3 of the past 4 hands, by having Jon Arryn poisoned, betraying Ned with the Gold Cloaks, and then framing Tyrion for Joffrey's murder, which he's counting on him getting executed.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:10 pm to
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from the preview they made it seem like Tywin thinks Tyrion did it. was that just a show?


Well, Tywin has been looking for an excuse to rid himself of Tyrion for years, and now that Sansa is wanted for murder as well and is missing, Tyrion is now pretty worthless in his father's eyes.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:18 pm to
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from the preview they made it seem like Tywin thinks Tyrion did it. was that just a show?


We don't get a Tywin POV during the trial so it's hard to tell what his real thoughts are. I think we only see what others think he thinks.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:19 pm to
he has to know his son isn't that stupid
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