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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:26 pm to
Posted by poncho villa
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:26 pm to
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the hodor thread makes me want to kill small animals sometimes
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:37 pm to
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So what is even canon now? The books or the show?


It's already reaching the point where Hugo will have to create more lists since Maesters became Hodors for a lot of this episode.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:43 pm to
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:07 am to
I'm ready for the point where the show completely moves past the books and we are all united as Hodors.
Posted by MasCervezas
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:09 am to
So Sansa and Margery both had a poison stone missing. Which one killed Joffrey
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:09 am to
I think Olenna took Marg's tonight so I assume Sansa.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:11 am to
how many poison necklaces are out there?
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:13 am to
I think the bigger question is who is the other one meant for
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:16 am to
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how many poison necklaces are out there?


One.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:18 am to
well sansa had one and so does margery
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:51 am to
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well sansa had one and so does margery




The Grandmother DID NOT take a stone from Margery. She was clearly just straitening it.

Before





After





Sansa had the Necklace with the Poison given to her by Ser Dontos, who was paid by Littlefinger who was working for Grandma Tyrell.

Crazy. As a book-reader I wasn't as sure of it all until tonight.

Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:20 am to
Do the books say anything about what Daeny does with these cities after leaving them? Does she just leave the survivors behind after taking valuables? Does she install her own people into positions of power? The city where she first got the unsullied seems like the only one that was semi-destroyed.
Posted by Helo
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:00 am to
Before last night I had suspected Olenna of being involved but not Tywin. After last night I suspect they were both in on it.

After the rehearsal dinner they were talking about the Iron Bank and that they will get their due. I am wondering if Tywin and Olenna participated in the plot to control that situation with the bank financially. Especially after the scene in the Septh with Tywin and Tommen talking about how a wise king listens to his advisers which Joffery clearly did not.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:25 am to
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Do the books say anything about what Daeny does with these cities after leaving them?

Yes, quite a lot actually. However, I can't say anything here without spoiling.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:42 am to
I don't think margary's necklace had poison on it. i think granny was just playing with margary's necklace to drop a hint as to how joffrey died.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:45 am to
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We've honestly guessed this is what happened (or some variation of it), but the origins and overall nature of the White Walkers we still don't have a clue about. The only time we've seen the White Walkers before this very scene is when they're just murdering people, and we have no POV within their ranks.

Well it looked like we got the POV of the baby so it's possible we won't get another scene like that for awhile. Maybe when the baby grows up. It kinda looked like the WW gave the baby to some dead crows.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 6:46 am
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:45 am to
I lurked it and the poster not remembering Locke made my brain hurt . He only cut off Jaime's hand and threw Brienne into a bear pit 1 season ago and was at Roose's in E2....
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 7:46 am
Posted by Wolf
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:21 am to
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I lurked it and the poster not remembering Locke made my brain hurt . He only cut off Jaime's hand and threw Brienne into a bear pit 1 season ago and was at Roose's in E2


meh, i am a book reader, but i will cop to taking a minute remembering who he was simply because i did not expect him to be there.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:33 am to
It's interesting that Arya can't make it to any of her destinations in less than 5 episodes yet Locke can get from harrenhall to to yhe wall in 2
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:39 am to
He didn't leave from Harrenhall But I still didn't expect to see him make it there so quickly. It did take me a second to realize who he was.
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