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Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:31 pm to Patton
Boltons, One of Rob's Bannermen
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:31 pm to Tiger in NY
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Somewhere along the line, he joined in with the Brotherhood (the 2 groups melded together).
I thought he created the group once everything went to shite in King's Landing, refusing to take sides in a war when the war was causing so much strife?
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:32 pm to Tiger in NY
That's what I thought.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:32 pm to Bard
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I thought he created the group once everything went to shite in King's Landing, refusing to take sides in a war when the war was causing so much strife?
Could have been, I don't totally remember, but I thought that Thoros was part of his own group. He was part of the initial group sent out by Ned.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:39 pm to Patton
No one "holds" Winterfell at the moment. The Bolton's may have a few men there (they were the ones to report that Winterfell had fallen and everyone there was dead), but that's purely speculation because if anyone has even a handful of troops garrisoned at Winterfell hasn't been mentioned (that I remember).
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:40 pm to Tiger in NY
The last 10 min of this episode might be the best 10 minutes of TV I've ever seen.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:41 pm to Bard
The Boltons aren't just going to reclaim Winterfell and then leave it ungarrisoned.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:42 pm to Scoop
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The last 10 min of this episode might be the best 10 minutes of TV I've ever seen.
Yes, and her story is the one I cannot stand. It was truly badass.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:43 pm to OMLandshark
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Not even sure if they showed Beric in the first season.
They did. He was in the throne room when Ned was acting as Hand and he directed him to hunt down the Mountain. It was just a different actor then the one they're using now.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:44 pm to jmarto1
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The Boltons aren't just going to reclaim Winterfell and then leave it ungarrisoned.
What do you mean "reclaim"? The Boltons are Stark bannerman. A group of Boltons was only sent there to take it back from the 50 or so Ironborn that Theon had. Most of the Boltons are south of Winterfell fighting.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:44 pm to BluegrassBelle
It would have been nice if they had him in the tournament with his flaming sword.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:45 pm to Tiger in NY
Perfect. Thanks for the clarification
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:58 pm to jmarto1
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The Boltons aren't just going to reclaim Winterfell and then leave it ungarrisoned.
More than likely they left a couple of men, but since there's no fighting anywhere nearby I think that even if they did leave any that it would be only a handful.
But again, it hasn't been stated one way or the other, so it's just speculation.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 11:37 pm to Bard
Don't really think there's anyone there at all currently. After it was burned it seemed to be abandoned. Bran, Rickon, Hodor, and that wildling chick didn't exactly sneak around the place when they left the tombs.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 11:49 pm to Tiger in NY
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What do you mean "reclaim"? The Boltons are Stark bannerman. A group of Boltons was only sent there to take it back from the 50 or so Ironborn that Theon had. Most of the Boltons are south of Winterfell fighting
I thought it was Bolton's bastard son that sacked Winterfell. I knew he killed the Northmen that were going to retake the castle from Theon.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:29 am to TigerintheNO
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I thought it was Bolton's bastard son that sacked Winterfell.
There was no "sacking". Bolton's bastard was sent by Roose Bolton to retake Winterfell from the North (he mentions in Season 2, "I'll send my bastard"). The Ironborn took a look at their host, and cut a deal with The Bastard. He got Theon as part of the deal, while they went back to their ship. The show showed them putting the hood over his head at the end of last season, but never really showed the next steps of how he got into the possession of The Bastard of Bolton this season. There was more to it in the book, but this is the gist of it. A big part (to me at least) was that Ser Rodrick was offed in the process. He was the white haired guy that Theon struggled to behead last season.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:41 am to Tiger in NY
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Ser Rodrick was offed in the process
Ser Rodrick was betrayed by Bolton's bastard and murdered prior to the assult on Winterfell, his corpse was what was used by Bolton's men to gain entry to the castle. I don't think in either the book or the show it was the Ironborn that set Winterfell a fire.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:44 am to jmarto1
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It would have been nice if they had him in the tournament with his flaming sword.
That actually would have been awesome. Would have been a cool reveal when he came back later.
I always felt that they kind of didn't do enough in that scene. They could have really explained a ton of backstory with Loras and Mountain.
As a non-reader at the time, I really didn't even realize who the hell those two were.
Especially Mountain. Hell, even at this point in the show I don't think they've done nearly enough for the non-readers to a) realize who he is, he's just kind of been standing around, and b) realize his importance.
One of the few things I think the show has really dropped the ball on.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:51 am to Tiger Voodoo
There are a ton of moving parts in the book, they've had to scale that down for television but there's still a LOT going on here. Even with that there is still more going on now than goes on in most other shows.
The scaling down has meant some characters have been combined into others and some storylines (like Ser Dontas) are completely dropped. This has made it interesting (at least for me) to see how the writers take the various plots from Point A to Point C while completely avoiding Point B.
And then there's things that weren't even in the book (like Littlefinger's speech with the two prostitutes while they were "auditioning" for him), Theon's speech in the sewers last night, etc that help flesh the stories and characters out more for those that have read the books.
The scaling down has meant some characters have been combined into others and some storylines (like Ser Dontas) are completely dropped. This has made it interesting (at least for me) to see how the writers take the various plots from Point A to Point C while completely avoiding Point B.
And then there's things that weren't even in the book (like Littlefinger's speech with the two prostitutes while they were "auditioning" for him), Theon's speech in the sewers last night, etc that help flesh the stories and characters out more for those that have read the books.
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