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re: Game of Thrones S7 E6 "Beyond The Wall" MAESTERS THREAD NO SPOILERS

Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:39 pm to
Dude I'm in the east time zone, that means I'm up drinking, watching til 1030, then drinking and talking about it til midnight. I got work on Mondays. frick that.
Posted by hambones
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:51 pm to
I understand your reasoning. I just can't go there with you and it makes me sad. Farewell, Maester LucasP. It suits you, you know? Being a Three Eyed Raven.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:54 pm to
I'll see you on the other side. Fare thee well.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Member since Jul 2007
26721 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:10 pm to
Dude, quit that dead end job.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:31 pm to
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frick this guy, let's kick his arse!!!!!


Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:33 pm to
That's the spirit! Let's punch him in his dumb face!! And kick his stupid knee caps!!! And put some fingers in his dopey butthole!!!

He will regret this.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:36 pm to
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That's the spirit! Let's punch him in his dumb face!! And kick his stupid knee caps!!! And put some fingers in his dopey butthole!!!

He will regret this.


Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:38 pm to
Spoilers are all over the interwebs sp beware
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:40 pm to
Cause we're gonna put stuff in it.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Watch your butthole
quote:

Cause we're gonna put stuff in it.


Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21046 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:47 pm to
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I'm super pumped for this ep, but the whole "bring a wight to KL" is the dumbest fricking idea.



Just out of curiosity, what do you think they should do? They don't really have much in terms of good options. Even Varys acknowledged it's a terrible plan, but it's basically try this or wait for the White Walkers to conquer the North before anybody takes them seriously.
Posted by hambones
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:51 pm to
My two cents would've been this:

Dany, hop on Drogon and fly to KL in the middle of the night. Make sure Drogon doesn't do any roaring. When you get there be on the look out for those scorpions. Fly at great height until you are above the red keep. Dive down to the castle and drench this part (point at Cersei's quarters of the red keep) with dragonfire. Then fly back and we'll see if that did the trick. Should take you all of 1.5hrs.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:54 pm to
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what do you think they should do?


Cersei has Euron, The Kings Guard and that's it as far as troops, no? Dany's got multiple tens of thousands of Dothraki and at least 5000 Unsullied. Take 10,000 Dothraki and 2000 Unsullied and surround Kings Landing and lock Cersei in. Everyone else can go to the Wall and just keep an eye out for any Iron Born for the dragons to burn.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:58 pm to
I don't think Dany is willing to commit that much to the north. Jon's goal is to unite everyone, at least for the time being.
Posted by volod
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:58 pm to

The entire concept of them trying to find a wight is absurd. Yes I admit that it does give substance to their claim of the WW threat.

However, wouldn't it be better to simply defeat the Lannisters and unite Westeros as queen?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 3:00 pm to
The point is to have as many living people to fight non living people as possible.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21046 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

My two cents would've been this:

Dany, hop on Drogon and fly to KL in the middle of the night. Make sure Drogon doesn't do any roaring. When you get there be on the look out for those scorpions. Fly at great height until you are above the red keep. Dive down to the castle and drench this part (point at Cersei's quarters of the red keep) with dragonfire. Then fly back and we'll see if that did the trick. Should take you all of 1.5hrs.


That's what Dany wants to do as well. Tyrion has convinced her not to. While I get the logic, I'm not sure how many lives he hopes to save with a siege. That could get ugly.
Posted by hambones
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 3:03 pm to
Another thing is is this:

Say they succeed in everything. They get a wight or WW, they bring it KL, Cersei agrees to see it with witnesses.

The first thing Cersei would say (Tyrion would know this) is this:

"You expect me to be moved by one, pathetic parlor trick. My Hand, Qyburn, has proven himself more viable than this Night King you speak of."

Meanwhile she would have some trap/poison/trick ready to spring on all of Dany's company that came to the stupid show n' tell.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 3:06 pm to

I acknowledge that it would be better to have the Lannisters provide support.

But there is one big issue, will Cersei provide support in Season 8. She has every reason to betray everybody.

1) If everyone else sends their army, they will be too weak to resist her army.

2) If they fail to stop the WW with their first attempt (a pretty good possibility) then she will blow up King's Landing.

Also, has anyone mentioned how are they going to implement dragon-glass to fight the wights. Are they going to craft weapons from it for this battle or something?
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