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re: Game of Thrones S5:E7:"The Gift", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)

Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:50 pm to


Pipe down bruh

I'm not gonna get trapped in one of your endless arguments where you prattle on and on with over the top gripes repeated ad nauseum.

disaster? a disaster would be something that effectively kills the show by driving off the viewers in droves.

The stuff in Dorne hasn't done that at all so get outta here with your hyperbolic complaints.

Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:58 pm to
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Dorne needs to pick up a lot. Jaime is there, but Myrcella refuses to go with him. I wonder if he will tell her that he is her father (or if that will come out somehow).


When watching the scene with her and Jamie, I was thinking there is a good chance she wouldn't believe him if he did tell her he was her father
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 3:10 pm to
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When watching the scene with her and Jamie, I was thinking there is a good chance she wouldn't believe him if he did tell her he was her father

She may not. Although you saying that now has me pondering if she's heard the rumors before. Clearly her and her brothers being Jaime/Cersei's kids is a pretty widespread fact around Westeros. So it'd be weird if she hadn't at least heard some semblance of rumor about it.

But still, I wonder if he/Bronn will try to bring that up to her when trying to convince her to leave. Also, surely they have to get her to leave, or something important has to happen to Jaime...otherwise why have the whole Dorne storyline at all?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 3:13 pm to
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Clearly her and her brothers being Jaime/Cersei's kids is a pretty widespread fact around Westeros. So it'd be weird if she hadn't at least heard some semblance of rumor about it.

especially living in an area that hates jaime and his family and would spread any negative rumor about them they hear
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 3:26 pm to
Idk, I feel like starting a rumor about her around Dorne would insure your death.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 3:30 pm
Posted by freeagent
Member since Oct 2014
908 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 3:35 pm to
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Hey guy who tried to kill me, take a look at my tits and give me attention. Maybe I will save you.


I took the tit showing thing to be that it would make his blood pump faster and thus make the poison work quicker. Which is why they asked how his arm was before.

The point of the scene was probly to reiterate the poisonous traits of Dornish weaponry for those who might not remember/ show boobs.
Posted by duqueob
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 4:01 pm to
does any one else feel like khaleesi is getting fatter?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 4:03 pm to
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does any one else feel like khaleesi is getting fatter?

I haven't noticed.

I did think it as funny that they basically gave her a "nude" scene this week, without her actually being naked on TV.

ETA: and I still hate the new Daario, and find it hard to accept this new actor in that role. No idea why either, I just do.
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 9:26 am
Posted by freeagent
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 4:36 pm to
I'm with you Cocomo.. I've been off put by the new Daario since he was cast
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 4:37 pm
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 5:36 pm to
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Was glad to see Theon hoe out Sansa. After all he's been through to be conditioned how he is, I would've been pissed if one short conversation with Sansa turned him around.



Do theon go to Ramsay's room or was ramsey at the top of the tower....i didnt even consider that theon just ratted out sansa
Posted by freeagent
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 5:44 pm to
Ramsey's room.. I believe he passes the tower en route. I think it was just shot in a way to make sure unsure of what exactly was about to transpire. Like is he about to light the candle?! Oh noooo he sure isn't. He's at Ramsey's.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 5:47 pm to
Thay makes more sense. ...especially since ramsey didn't punish Reek
Posted by TigerinSoCal
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:45 pm to
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Plus he was a pretty good fighter and that probably turned them on. He took on two of them and walked away from it.

Yep, no doubt he gained some respect, and I guess his toughness and fighting skills got her hot. Don't know how anyone can say it was pointless without seeing where this connection goes.
Posted by The Dude Abides
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:35 am to
crap, wrong thread.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 9:37 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:05 am to
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The people telling the story right now are probably just patting each other on the back for their awesome storytelling, when in reality it sucks.



There are a lot of dumb comments in this thread but I think this one and some of your others are right at the top. So you want Sansa to just up and kill Ramsey immediately.

If the writers were big enough idiots to write the show exactly as you would want, it would have been cancelled half way through the pilot episode. But, it is probably the most popular show on TV instead.

If they were as predictable as every bad guy dying immediately and doing exactly what the viewers wanted, it would be the most boring piece of shite show on TV.

If you think it sucks so bad, there is a very easy way to remedy that and it will actually give you more time to do other things.
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 8:21 am
Posted by TheTurtle
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:38 am to
Someone humor me and let's talk a few things over, because these haters are coming a little too strong.

1. Sandsnake getting naked for Bronn in the prison
- Regardless of purpose, this was great; however, I believe she got naked to get his heart beating/blood flowing to kick that poison into gear in that moment. She then tossed the antidote to him to perhaps secure his friendship for a potential escape.

- Yes, the poison/boobs/antidote sequence was semi-contrived, but it was classic sexy ninja technique.

2. The damn Sparrows
- They've mentioned several times (or did I read it from a recap??) that the Sparrows are far branching and have many, many followers in Westeros.
- At first, I was annoyed that Tommen didn't just send an army in to kill these guys. Next, I was pissed Olenna Tyrell didn't send an army in to kill these guys (they are the most wealthy family in the realm, surely their army is enormous). Finally, I understood that you can't just go killing religious fanatics who have your wife/daughter and brother-in-law/son (and basic bitch/mom) imprisoned.
- As soon as an army shows up on the Sparrows porch, out will come whatever his name is with a knife on Margaery's throat.

3. Ramsay/Reek/Sansa
- I agree this has gone on too long, no doubt about it. There has been so much time devoted to this Reek/Ramsay story that we naturally have to expect (require) a huge payout. That payout would have been killing Ramsey when he dicked down Sansa. But he didn't.
- The only next-best payout would maybe be during the incoming battle with Stannis. Perhaps Theon can screw Ramsey over at a key moment?
- The Sansa situation isn't what bothers me at all (regarding the storytelling). She is married to an abusive psychopath, so she's getting mentally and physically abused. This isn't a shocker (although it really sucks, because I like her).

Posted by Team Vote
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:49 am to
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3. Ramsay/Reek/Sansa
- I agree this has gone on too long, no doubt about it. There has been so much time devoted to this Reek/Ramsay story that we naturally have to expect (require) a huge payout. That payout would have been killing Ramsey when he dicked down Sansa. But he didn't.
- The only next-best payout would maybe be during the incoming battle with Stannis. Perhaps Theon can screw Ramsey over at a key moment?
- The Sansa situation isn't what bothers me at all (regarding the storytelling). She is married to an abusive psychopath, so she's getting mentally and physically abused. This isn't a shocker (although it really sucks, because I like her).


I agree, I think Theon will turn the tide in Stannis' favor somehow, or at least kill Ramsey
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:59 am to
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She then tossed the antidote to him to perhaps secure his friendship for a potential escape.



I definitely think she is trying to gain favor with him so when he gets out he can help them get out.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:08 am to
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I agree, I think Theon will turn the tide in Stannis' favor somehow, or at least kill Ramsey


That is what I think is so great about this show. No matter how bad you want Theon's redemption against Ramsey it will probably never happen. Ramsey may kill Reek and Sansa and just continue his life of happiness by torturing new people.

The good guys don't always (if ever) win in Game of Thrones.
Posted by TheTurtle
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:20 am to
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That is what I think is so great about this show. No matter how bad you want Theon's redemption against Ramsey it will probably never happen. Ramsey may kill Reek and Sansa and just continue his life of happiness by torturing new people.

The good guys don't always (if ever) win in Game of Thrones.


I half-agree with you.

Only reason I expect the "payoff" is solely because of the damn screen time devoted to Reek. It's one thing for all this to just happen to him for years with no end-game, because it's just a sadistic guy torturing his captor.

However, the fact that we have watched him for 8 minutes per episode for the last 2 or 3 seasons HAS to mean something, right? It's not like we were attached to him and are just being forced to watch someone we loved be completely broken - this is a guy we were completely "meh" about at best. I guess my point is, what the hell is the point with Theon?
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