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re: Game of Thrones S4:E8:"The Mountain and the Viper", HODORS ONLY no book readers
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:33 am to Epic Cajun
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:33 am to Epic Cajun
All theories are spoilers now.
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:34 am to Iona Fan Man
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Notice how no one sees a way that Jon could be Ned's Brothers
Because it's silly. They've made such a big deal out of his lineage and that can be for only 1 of 2 reasons. It either was only important to the early story to cause conflict between Ned, Cat and Jon Snow, in which case it no longer is relevant to the story and we may not ever learn who his parents were, OR who his parents were is important to the story in the long run. Jon Snow being fathered by one Stark or the other wouldn't make one bit of difference to the story in the long run. "So I'm actually 'Jon Snow of Winterfell', not 'Jon Snow of Winterfell'. This changes everything!"
There is a theory that plugs most of the holes and I posted it earlier and deleted it because if I'm right, you probably don't want to know the truth before it is revealed to you on the show. You seriously should stop thinking about this, I wish I hadn't.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:36 am to JimMorrison
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as a Hodor, it's perfectly acceptable to read into those backgrounds to get a better grasp on what's going on.
is it? If you go to the wiki page for a character...it shows info that's hasn't been in the show yet(learned that season 3).....if you know Rob dies, then when someone says, "I think Rob will kill Joffrey and take over KLs before fighting Dany's dragons"...you will not give credence to that theory. So I actually think it's inappropriate as you will, even if inadvertently, sway discussion toward spoilerish theories.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:39 am to Iona Fan Man
Not if you go to the correct wiki page. There are two. One with spoilers and one without.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:40 am to Iona Fan Man
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If you go to the wiki page for a character.
There is a Game of Thrones Wiki for the show and ASOIF Wiki for the book. The GoT wiki is supposedly Hodor approved.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:41 am to Iona Fan Man
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Notice how no one sees a way that Jon could be Ned's Brothers
It's possible, but it doesn't make sense. Ned's sense of loyalty wouldn't allow him to be lord and have his nephew, the rightful lord, be treated as a bastard. (ETA: I was focused on JS being Brandon's son. However, I am noodling on him being Benjen's, though - having already taken the Black, it would mean a death sentence - that might also spur Ned to keep the secret. It might also be the catalyst that drove them all to send him to The Wall - perhaps Benjen was going to confide in him at some point - particularly after Ned's death - but he's gone, too.)
Nobody but the Starks would care which Stark ruled Winterfell - and it would have been much easier to sell to Cat - she'd be (rightfully) mad at the dead Stark, rather than (wrongfully) mad at her husband and Snow.
Now - if Snow's father, somehow, had a claim on the Iron Throne - then his status as King/Prince/Lord X's son, and if revealed, would mean his death, Ned might keep a secret and lie for something like that, correct? And for purposes of this supposition, Snow is a blood relative to Ned in some way.
The problem is, now, proving that parentage - Ned's dead, the mother is presumed dead - certainly unnamed. She would have to show up, alive, somehow, or someone else who knows the truth. Luwin or Ser Rodrick might have known the truth, but they're all dead. Certainly Robert and Cat didn't (assuming he is not as Ned presented, Ned's bastard son with a low-born woman - See? It's ludicrous to even say, much less believe.)
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 11:48 am
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:55 am to Ace Midnight
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Nobody but the Starks would care which Stark ruled Winterfell - and it would have been much easier to sell to Cat - she'd be (rightfully) mad at the dead Stark
I;m dropping this now...but if no one cared about the ruler of winerfell but the starks...then I believe it's plausible that Ned decided to keep Jon's Lordship a secret so that Kat and Rob et al can be in command and heirs of winterfell. Kat married Ned because he was Lord.....with Jon recognized, she and they lose everything.
But enough people being on board with crypt girl that I NOW know Ned's Brother is and forever will be an after thought.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 12:03 pm to Iona Fan Man
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But enough people being on board with crypt girl
It's just a theory. Until his parentage is revealed (if ever) - your theory is just as good - as would be the theory he is Benjen's (which I only heard recently, but certainly fits the narrow criteria of Ned's blood and keeping his true parentage secret is vital.)
Posted on 6/6/14 at 12:07 pm to Iona Fan Man
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Game of Thrones S4:E9:"The Watchers on the Wall", Pretend to be HODORS ONLY, only reference TV SHOW MATERIAL
some make the new thread and kill this one, we can discuss upcoming events based on the shows preview write up
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Jon Snow and the Night’s Watch face a big challenge.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 12:25 pm to Iona Fan Man
If you're getting this bent out of shape, you shouldn't post your own theories and probably should just stop reading this thread.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 12:42 pm to JimMorrison
I'm not sure where I should post this because starting a thread saying Oberyn is starring in a new show might spoil the people that are a few weeks behind, but for those who can't get enough Pedro Pascal, he's coming to NetFlix.
LINK
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Pedro Pascal, who plays Oberyn Martell on this season of HBO’s “Game of Thrones,” has been tapped to star opposite Wagner Moura in Netflix’s Pablo Escobar drama “Narcos,” sources confirm.
The series, directed by Jose Padilha (“Robocop”), tells the story of Columbian drug kingpin Pablo Escobar, played by Moura, and the DEA agent (Pascal) who hunted him down.
“Narcos” is expected to debut on Netflix in 2015.
LINK
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:02 pm to TigerinATL
Netflix series? Will binge watch.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:35 pm to TigerinATL
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e DEA agent (Pascal) who hunted him down.
frickin book readers spoil everything
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:06 pm to UMRealist
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Huh? Part of that post is suspect.
What part? I think some people need to rewatch the first season
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:10 pm to VOLhalla
Dude, if you watch an episode more than once, you're practically a book reader. GTFO
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:30 pm to Epic Cajun
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Dude, if you watch an episode more than once
yeah, people watch every episode enough times to remember the Crest/Banner of every family to know that when they saw:
they can say "oh yeah, dat's House Bolton's Banner, Theon is attached to"
really, that many times, in that much detail, that just a run of the mill prisoner holder says that much to them.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:56 pm to TigerinATL
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you probably don't want to know the truth before it is revealed to you on the show.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 4:36 pm to TigerinATL
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The GoT wiki is supposedly Hodor approved
Posted on 6/6/14 at 4:48 pm to UL-SabanRival
?
There's nothing in there that would spoil anything
There's nothing in there that would spoil anything
Posted on 6/6/14 at 4:56 pm to Epic Cajun
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There's nothing in there that would spoil anything
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Spoiler
The Game of Thrones television series is an adaptation of the Song of Ice and Fire novels but will deviate from them in some areas. In addition this wiki is meant for the enjoyment of watchers of the television series who do not have any knowledge of the books. For this reason, spoilers and events from the books are not permitted on entries on this Wiki. Information from the books can be added to entries once the TV series has reached the same point in the story. For book-specific information, please visit the Wiki of Ice and Fire
okay, good to know. if someone brings something up that can't be found on GOT, should they be BANNED!?
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