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re: Game of Thrones S4:E5:"First of His Name", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:45 am to
Posted by JimMorrison
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:45 am to
Margaery talking and smiling out the side of her face irks me.

Sansa is hotter.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:54 am to
Sansa is traditionally hotter...but I don't know...I just like Margaery better.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:10 am to
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Margaery

Sansa is hotter.


No.
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:15 am to


So much hotter than Margaery and her dumb smirk would ever look on the throne
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:16 am to
Well, she looks good there. I'll give you that.
Posted by Antiheroaz
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:18 am to
Don't forget about Gendry. He being the son of the usurper has more a rightful claim than stannis I think. Bastard or not.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:27 am to
Now that she's 18 it's time for her to break out the noodz.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:34 am to
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He being the son of the usurper has more a rightful claim than stannis I think. Bastard or not.


You think incorrectly. From the Hodor approved Game Of Thrones Wiki

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Bastards are not allowed to inherit their father's lands or titles, and have no claims to the privileges of their father's House. It is up to their father on how to raise or treat them: at worst they are unacknowledged and ignored, though they may fare better and be discreetly sent funds to ensure their well-being. At best, a lord will acknowledge his bastard children (allowing them to take on one of the special bastard surnames), but send them away to one of his distant castles to be raised away from his lawful family. For bastard children to be raised by their father in his own castle alongside his trueborn children is considered extremely unusual.

...The stigma of illegitimacy is so great, that all bastards born to noble Houses in Westeros have to identify themselves through a specific surname marking them as a bastard, which varies by region:

Flowers: The Reach
Hill: The Westerlands
Pyke: Iron Islands
Rivers: The Riverlands
Sand: Dorne
Snow: The North
Stone: The Vale of Arryn
Storm: The Stormlands
Waters: The Crownlands

LINK
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:38 am to
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LF Is pimp, ive always liked him and hes now showing that he is the most powerful man in the show

Slow your roll there, big guy..

Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:42 am to
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Does anybody know of a Wiki of GoT characters that doesn't contain future spoilers? Basically a good source of info for each character up until the latest episode but no further than that. Thanks.

Yeah, like Jet says...use Game of Thrones Wiki. It is very good about not going past the show. And the only book-related part is at the very bottom (past pictures, quotes, lineage, etc.) in the "In the books" section, so it's very easy to avoid. Most of the page is broken down by season and only talks of the show. It's a great source.

Do not, I repeat DO NOT, use A Wiki of Fire and Ice. It's littered with book shite and all kinds of spoilers.

Like I've said before, the easiest thing to do is just to google "game of thrones _____" and the GoT Wiki is usually the first or second link (heads up: the "awofai" link is also usually up there as well, so avoid it).
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 10:43 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:50 am to
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All you need to kill is Tommen. Until he knocks up Margaery, the blood claim to the throne ends with him. The Lannisters have no actual claim to the throne, who are they going to be regents to? If Tommen dies Stannis probably is next in line, but he's got a tainted claim being named a traitor.


If you kill Tommen, do you really think that Tywin would just say "okay, I give up. I'm leaving KL"? Unless Tommen was killed in some sort of sack of KL, I don't see the Lannisters giving up power. They'd have to be forced out, AKA killed probably.
Posted by Antiheroaz
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:55 am to
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Gendry


Sucks to be him.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:57 am to
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If you kill Tommen, do you really think that Tywin would just say "okay, I give up. I'm leaving KL"?


Of course he doesn't give up, but there would be a legitimate dispute for the crown and there would be a fight over it. No one is just going to anoint Tywin Lannister King of Westeros.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:58 am to
You could put a leech on my dick for a couple minutes if I had gotten to frick Melisandre first. Wouldn't gaf, had sex.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 10:59 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:04 am to
As it is now most people know that Cersei and Jaime have been fricking and that the kids aren't Baratheons to begin with.

There is a fight over the throne already
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:05 am to
The entire show has been about a fight over the throne up to this point
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:09 am to
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The entire show has been about a fight over the throne up to this point


That was my point

If Tommen is killed by poison or something like that, and not by force, the Lannisters aren't just going to walk away from the throne. Someone would be propped up as the king, and it wouldn't be Stannis.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:13 am to
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Margaery talking and smiling out the side of her face irks me.

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Margaery and her dumb smirk

I'm with you on that shite. Don't get me wrong, Margaery is hot, but that little smirk aggravates the frick out of me.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:15 am to
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The entire show has been about a fight over the throne up to this point


Yes, but right now the Lannisters (through Cersei) and Stannis are the only people with a solid enough claim to actually go to war over the Iron Throne. The North went to war over Ned, not the throne. What happens if LF kills Tommen and breaks up the alliance between the Lannisters and Tyrells in the process. You'd have no kingdom with a stronger claim than the other (assuming everyone views Stannis as tainted), and as far as I can tell no strong alliance between kingdoms now that the Starks are gone. I'm not sure if the show would want to go in this direction because the multiple plot lines could get out of hand.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:18 am to
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If Tommen is killed by poison or something like that, and not by force, the Lannisters aren't just going to walk away from the throne. Someone would be propped up as the king, and it wouldn't be Stannis.

Isn't Stannis the one with the most deserved claim to the thrown? robert Baratheon and Cersei never birthed any sons that lived (or kids period, for that matter), so once Robert died, his oldest brother has the most legit claim, no? And just to be safe, Stannis had Renly merked anyway. But Robert's only living son, Gendry, has no claim to it since he is a bastard. So it's gotta be Stannis.

And it's fairly widely known now that Joffrey and Tommen weren't sons of Robert, so their claims to the thrown are illegitimate anyway (though not many fricks seem to be given about that in K'sL).

ETA: I realize that Stannis isn't viewed positively by everyone, but aside from that his claim is the most legit.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 11:20 am
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