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re: Game of Thrones S4:E4 "Oathkeeper" A Meltdown for Book Maesters (SPOILERS)

Posted on 4/27/14 at 9:21 am to
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 9:21 am to
Same here. I think waiting until E9 is too long of a wait IMO, and Jon's story doesn't speed up until the battle and the aftermath following it (Stannis's arrival, the legitimization offer, becoming Lord Commander, Mel creeping out Jon, Janos being a dumbass, etc.)
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:21 am to
it is tough though. I think the final episode has to be Jon going to Mance's camp and then Stannis arriving/Dany being boring/at least some Iron Islands stuff/Lysa through the Moon Door/Tywin doesn't shite gold.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:51 am to
The remaining 6 episodes will be great...but I could see Lysa out the moon door happening in E7 since the title is "Mockingbird."
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:08 am to
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This post was edited on 4/27/14 at 11:09 am
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:13 am to
yeah, I didn't look at the episode titles in advance.

I could see the first wall battle happening in e6 and the second in e9 with Jon becoming Lord Commander in e10.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:14 am to
Being that the actor playing Sir Payne is dieing, I will give them pass on this one.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:15 am to
Same here; I think it was a good choice considering that they had to change it due to the actor having cancer. And for keeping Bronn around since Lollys isn't in the show. I'm thinking Bronn will go off with Jaime to the Riverlands in S5.
This post was edited on 4/27/14 at 11:16 am
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:17 am to
quote:

I think it was a good choice considering that they had to change it due to the actor having cancer.

Absolutely. I think it helped cast Jamie in a more humble light. Having to take fighting lessons from a sellsword is definitely beneath him.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:20 am to
And Bronn is great...IMO show Bronn>book Bronn. I still can't get over Jerome Flynn being a boy bander...
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:26 am to
Bronn is my second favorite character in the show behind Tyrion.

It's going to be interesting in the upcoming seasons to see how they play out the Tyrion story across the narrow sea.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:41 am to
well, I doubt they have a female dwarf, but they could have a young woman whose brother was killed in King's landing following his escape.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:53 am to
Why didn't they just recast Ilyn Payne?
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:55 am to
quote:

I'm thinking Bronn will go off with Jaime to the Riverlands in S5.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that. I always thought that the characters of Bronn and Jorah provided an interesting juxtaposition. They are so similar in appearance (at least on the show), skill set, etc. and they seem to be on opposite trajectories.

Bronn rises from pretty much nothing to be Tyrion's right hand man for a long time, gets rewards for part in the battle of Blackwater and in the books ends up with land and position due to his marriage to Lloys. Jorah on the other hand starts off as a Mormont, the son of a recoginzed house but tumbles due first to engaging in the slave trade to earn money to impress his wife. Then he kind of levels off as a major advisor to Danny and then his infatuation with her sends him back downward again.

Of course I guess Bronn could get land, etc. as a reward for helping Jamie with swordplay lessons and if he does something impressive in the Riverlands (if that's the way they go). So, yeah, I guess under certain circumstances that could work.
Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Being that the actor playing Sir Payne is dieing, I will give them pass on this one.


Agree. Bronn was a logical choice and one of my favorite characters on the show.
Posted by ffishstik
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 12:21 pm to
Another note on the re-read and rewatch, Bronn also technically took the place of Jacelyn Bywater. What's the over/under on the number of minor characters that get rolled into Bronn on the show?

quote:

...but I could see Lysa out the moon door happening in E7 since the title is "Mockingbird."


Agree
This post was edited on 4/27/14 at 12:22 pm
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Jacelyn Bywater

Not to sound like a Hodor but I don't even remember who that is.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 2:48 pm to
He is Ironhand. He was named Commander of the City Watch by Tyrion after he dismissed Janos Slynt.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 2:49 pm to
he wasn't in the book for very long. He died at blackwater IIRC.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 2:52 pm to
I wish they would have recast Ilyn Payne. He will be killed by Arya later on because he's on her death prayer list so he will be recast anyway.

I don't think Bronn goes with Jamie. I think the show will make Bronn a traitor to Tyrion by showing that he gave Shae to Tywin and was bought by Tywin all along. Then Cercei will send him off with Lollys (sp?). Or maybe D&D have him killed off in some way which is what I would prefer
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 2:54 pm to
Yea he was shot in the throat with an arrow. I believe they actually showed that on the show
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