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re: Game of Thrones S4:E3:"Breaker of Chains", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

Posted on 4/20/14 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

The iron bank of bravos looking to collect on some unpaid Lannister debts. Lord Tywin hasn't been paying his bills.



The only enemy Tywin fears. The IRS.
Posted by jiffyjohnson
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 10:42 pm to
I could seriously give two fricks.
I watch the show man. The onion knight doesn't have to know it. He's asking for help wherever he can get it to help his broke dick king. They referenced the bank of bravos. In an early episode this season obviously foreshadowing it.
A theory is a theory. I've been wrong plenty.

Just saw you're the owner of the non reader thread and you're obviously on guard. Down boy, I'm not reading those obscenely long books and fricking up the awesome show they've got going. Maybe in a few years.
This post was edited on 4/20/14 at 10:52 pm
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 10:42 pm to
None of that has anything to do with Davos or Stannis. Most likely, he's asking for a loan since he told Stannis he's trying to get them money.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 10:44 pm to
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how would the onion knight know this?


It has been established throughout the series that there are not many secrets in Westeros.

Example: Two schlub Lannister soldiers who pulled the night shift on watch were talking about Renly being "stabbed" in the arse many times by Ser Loras Tyrell. How would a couple of foot soldiers know that?

It is not out of the realm of possibility that people know that Kings' Landing is in debt to its eyeballs to the Iron Bank and the Lannisters. And since the Lannisters run Kings' Landing, they are in debt to the Iron Bank.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 10:51 pm to
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It has been established throughout the series that there are not many secrets in Westeros.

and it took tyrion actually looking at the books to find this out. how would davos know this secret?

quote:

Two schlub Lannister soldiers who pulled the night shift on watch were talking about Renly being "stabbed" in the arse many times by Ser Loras Tyrell. How would a couple of foot soldiers know that?

it was well established, as far back as season 1, that his reputation was that of a "sword swallower"

quote:

It is not out of the realm of possibility that people know that Kings' Landing is in debt to its eyeballs to the Iron Bank and the Lannisters. And since the Lannisters run Kings' Landing, they are in debt to the Iron Bank.

and i'm sure they can pay it off, if they had to. and i have no idea why they'd be like, "oh yeah stannis, we'll go wage war on the kingdom, using you. we totally trust you. and since you have all of that money as collateral, we know if you win you'll pay us back"

it makes no sense. at all.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 10:54 pm to
Btw did anyone else think Jamie was about to push Jofferys body off that alter and use it?
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 10:58 pm to
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Something that seems to have sailed over people's heads was Walder Frey's name getting added to a list nobody wants to frickin be on.



I must of missed his name being brought up. What was it?
Posted by jiffyjohnson
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:01 pm to
That guy who took the hound and arya in was talking about the sacrilege walder Frey committed (the red wedding) when they were eating dinner. She knows who's responsible now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:03 pm to
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That guy who took the hound and arya in was talking about the sacrilege walder Frey committed (the red wedding) when they were eating dinner. She knows who's responsible now.

she was at his castle watching his men kill stark men and robb's direwolf. THEN she stumbled upon some frey soldiers bragging about being the guy who sewed the wolf's head to his body. if she didn't already know frey was involved, she's a fricking retard
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:04 pm to
Yeah she definitely already knew ole Walder was responsible for the red wedding
Posted by jiffyjohnson
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:05 pm to
You're right. It was probably there for no reason just like the bank of bravos stuff.

Whether she knew or not, first time his name's been mentioned to her on screen.
This post was edited on 4/20/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:06 pm to
who do you think arya thought killed her brother, when she was physically at the castle and saw frey's men kill his direwolf?
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:07 pm to
The Iron Bank is gonna be a huge player in the plot.

They have been setting this up forever.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:09 pm to
I just rewatched the scene. Arya shows no sign of shock or even any interest just beyond what the man's opinion is. I think it was just thrown in there to kinda tell how big a deal what Frey did was to the traditional Westeros customs.

It's not totally unimportant but in the context of Arya and the Hound's journey it is.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

. I think it was just thrown in there to kinda tell how big a deal what Frey did was to the traditional Westeros customs.

plus it set up the hound's betrayal, which isn't the same sort of betrayal, but it made the inevitable robbery seem that much more thuggish ruggish bone.


...


...only to be shown the raw emotional idiocy of the belief and our initial thoughts

dead men don't need silver, bro
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:12 pm to
I think I'm about to just say frick all these kings and join #TeamWildlings

They are badass
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:12 pm to
Yeah good point.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

who do you think arya thought killed her brother, when she was physically at the castle and saw frey's men kill his direwolf?


Then put its head on the body. That whole wedding scene was a surprise. Have any weddings on this show went well and ended well?
Posted by jiffyjohnson
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:13 pm to
They seriously do an awesome job of that. I've rewatched the seasons several times knowing what I do now and it makes you feel stupid you didn't put it together beforehand.
Like when the hound told arya at the twins she was afraid she wouldn't make it. That she was so close and wouldn't get to Robb and her mom. Never occurred to me that she wouldn't.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35906 posts
Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

Have any weddings on this show went well and ended well?


Technically Robb's wedding went pretty well.
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