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re: Game of Thrones S4E2 - "The Lion and the Rose" (SPOILERS) Readers thread
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:40 am to Napoleon
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:40 am to Napoleon
Some non PW thoughts from the show:
- Loved the Roose/Ramsey interaction. Pretty true to the books. But is it just me or did that happen a lot later in the books? Sure seemed that way to me.
- Theon/Reek was REALLY into Stockholm Syndrome mode. It's almost unbelievable that he wouldn't have sliced Ramsey's throat at that moment.
- Not too much is being said about Bran's visisons. The Dragon shadow over King's landing was discussed a bit last week but there was the horse (or maybe Coldhand's Elk), Ned and a few other visions.
- For as meticulous as he usually is regarding dealing with dangerous rival houses, Tywin seems to be kind of behind the game when it comes to both the Tyrells and the Martels.
- Loved the Roose/Ramsey interaction. Pretty true to the books. But is it just me or did that happen a lot later in the books? Sure seemed that way to me.
- Theon/Reek was REALLY into Stockholm Syndrome mode. It's almost unbelievable that he wouldn't have sliced Ramsey's throat at that moment.
- Not too much is being said about Bran's visisons. The Dragon shadow over King's landing was discussed a bit last week but there was the horse (or maybe Coldhand's Elk), Ned and a few other visions.
- For as meticulous as he usually is regarding dealing with dangerous rival houses, Tywin seems to be kind of behind the game when it comes to both the Tyrells and the Martels.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:54 am to FalseProphet
no one should be guessing Littlefinger at this point. He hasnt been talked about this entire season, the only way the show could possibly hint at Littlefinger is if on the previously on they showed him telling Sansa he had a plan to take her away with him
theres a difference between being a book reader and having knowledge of future events and this dude seems to know whats up and is forcing the convo into that direction
theres a difference between being a book reader and having knowledge of future events and this dude seems to know whats up and is forcing the convo into that direction
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:00 am to FalseProphet
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It happens. I don't think it's a stretch to think that Varys (and maybe LF) is involved considering the emphasis they put on him tonight. I mean, if you think a plot is going on, I'm thinking LF every time. They appear to have telegraphed the plot angle much more in the show than the book did.
I'm sorry, but I can't buy that the very first person you point to is Littlefinger being behind it. He has no apparent motive, hasn't even been brought up in like 6 episodes, and wasn't even present. I could buy it if they said it after debating it for some time, but the first thought to go through their head? No fricking way.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:00 am to Methuselah
So I'm assuming that Shae is gone for good, right? I doubt we see her again anytime soon. Unless Bronn delivered her to Tywin in the TOTH in exchange for gold? That would make Tyrion killing her and Tywin more an act of love/spite.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:03 am to Gugich22
You should not assume anything with Shae except Tyrion WILL kill her.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:06 am to Hugo Stiglitz
The more I think about it, the more likely it is that Bronn brought her to Tywin for a nice pay day. That would make it much more believable that Tyrion would kill her and would make for an easier split between Bronn and Tyrion.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:20 am to Gugich22
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Bronn delivered her to Tywin
I'm thinking this.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:21 am to Napoleon
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Don't post in the other thread for any reason. Any reason.
This. I tried to read it once and my head almost exploded. Hodors gonna Hodor; just stick with the reader's thread.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:24 am to Methuselah
Yea Ramsay taking Moat Caitlin to allow Rooses forces to return Nortn happens in book 5 so pretty interesting they already seem to be greasing the wheels for that
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:34 am to tigerfan88
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Yea Ramsay taking Moat Caitlin to allow Rooses forces to return Nortn happens in book 5 so pretty interesting they already seem to be greasing the wheels for that
What else are they going to do with Theon? Must of his chapters are focused on his internal thoughts which can't really be portrayed on screen.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:34 am to OMLandshark
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I'm sorry, but I can't buy that the very first person you point to is Littlefinger being behind it. He has no apparent motive, hasn't even been brought up in like 6 episodes, and wasn't even present. I could buy it if they said it after debating it for some time, but the first thought to go through their head? No fricking way.
Eh, he went on that rant before he left king's landing about how chaos is a ladder and what not.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:49 am to Methuselah
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Not too much is being said about Bran's visisons. The Dragon shadow over King's landing was discussed a bit last week but there was the horse (or maybe Coldhand's Elk), Ned and a few other visions.
Pretty sure that was the Other's horse we saw in season 2. I was disappointed in what they showed in Bran's visions, so much of it was reused footage from earlier seasons. I guess I was wanting more visions of things to come, or at least things in the past we hadn't seen before.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:53 am to Tyrion Lannister
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I was wanting more visions of things to come, or at least things in the past we hadn't seen before.
he needs to eat the Jojen paste to get those
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:57 am to CE Tiger
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he needs to eat the Jojen paste to get those
mmm...tastes pastey
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:58 am to CE Tiger
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he needs to eat the Jojen paste to get those
You're right. Forgot about that, I think I need to get a re-read in soon. So many little things I keep forgetting about.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:59 am to Dire Wolf
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Eh, he went on that rant before he left king's landing about how chaos is a ladder and what not.
Yeah, but if anyone is chaos personified, it's Joffrey. Seems like working under Joffrey would be very advantageous for Littlefinger.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:01 am to OMLandshark
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Seems like working under Joffrey would be very advantageous for Littlefinger.
Plus he gave Ros to Joff and is being gifted Lord of the Vale - you would think Littlefinger would be towing the company line with that relationship
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:10 am to tigerfan88
I'm still not sure how I feel about this episode. I was a little disappointed, but I can't really put my finger on the reason why. A few of the things that I liked:
- Joff is dead
- They kept the dwarves, although they did it quite differently. Looks like there will not be a Penny later (not a big deal)
- They pulled the necklace thing off fairly well with Olenna
- They went a little deeper into just how fricked up and cruel Ramsay is. Torturing Theon is one thing, but hunting women and letting his "girls" tear them up was one of the things that was most disturbing about him in the books. I think that it's important to the later fake Arya storyline to show that his cruelty isn't limited to Theon. What he did to Lady Hornwood had been mentioned in the shows(I think), but seeing him at his work is quite different.
- The Bran vision was pretty cool
- No Darrio. The less we see of Daario, the better
A few gripes:
- I appreciate the reasoning for the storyline departure with the planned marriage between Cersei and Loras, but he really should be in the Kingsgaurd already. I guess they'll do that after Tywin is dead and the marriage is off.
- The interactions in the PW scenes had too much of a soap opera feel to them. I think that is the main reason for being a bit disappointed; it was one of the biggest scenes in the story and it just seemed sort of flat.
- Not thrilled with the Shae/Tyrion break up that they added. Now it will look like he drove her to betraying him. It's a subtle difference, but it ultimately flips the dynamic of Tyrion being betrayed by someone that he loved who was only using him to Shae feeling betrayed and used by him. It creates more sympathy for her when (if) he kills her. I will be genuinely pissed if he doesn't; it's a big part of his arc.
- Joff is dead
- They kept the dwarves, although they did it quite differently. Looks like there will not be a Penny later (not a big deal)
- They pulled the necklace thing off fairly well with Olenna
- They went a little deeper into just how fricked up and cruel Ramsay is. Torturing Theon is one thing, but hunting women and letting his "girls" tear them up was one of the things that was most disturbing about him in the books. I think that it's important to the later fake Arya storyline to show that his cruelty isn't limited to Theon. What he did to Lady Hornwood had been mentioned in the shows(I think), but seeing him at his work is quite different.
- The Bran vision was pretty cool
- No Darrio. The less we see of Daario, the better
A few gripes:
- I appreciate the reasoning for the storyline departure with the planned marriage between Cersei and Loras, but he really should be in the Kingsgaurd already. I guess they'll do that after Tywin is dead and the marriage is off.
- The interactions in the PW scenes had too much of a soap opera feel to them. I think that is the main reason for being a bit disappointed; it was one of the biggest scenes in the story and it just seemed sort of flat.
- Not thrilled with the Shae/Tyrion break up that they added. Now it will look like he drove her to betraying him. It's a subtle difference, but it ultimately flips the dynamic of Tyrion being betrayed by someone that he loved who was only using him to Shae feeling betrayed and used by him. It creates more sympathy for her when (if) he kills her. I will be genuinely pissed if he doesn't; it's a big part of his arc.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:13 am to OMLandshark
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Yeah, but if anyone is chaos personified, it's Joffrey. Seems like working under Joffrey would be very advantageous for Littlefinger.
Well there is Cersei. You are right its questionable, but i just think these Hodors are throwing shite against the wall.
any way screenshots of Bran dream LINK
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:14 am to CE Tiger
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Plus he gave Ros to Joff and is being gifted Lord of the Vale - you would think Littlefinger would be towing the company line with that relationship
LF tows whatever line is convenient for the moment. If all the roads lead back to King's Landing, it wouldn't shock me to see Tyrion and LF left as the last men standing when Daenarys finally crosses the ocean (with Jon Snow still at the Wall).
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