re: Game of Thrones 32 man single combat tournament WE HAVE A TIE

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You guys have hyped the frick out of Arthur Dayne, who is mentioned in like one sentence out of five books. Does he get mentioned after Game of Thrones and I just forgot? I read most of those books like 8 years ago.

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No, it's basically them basing it off of the fact that everyone in the books talks him up. It's like when old ppl argue that basketball players from 30 yrs ago would dominate everyone today, nobody really knows, and everyone always overhypes the guy not competing anymore

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It's like this, except everyone knows Michael Jordan is the GOAT.

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But everyone's seen Michael Jordan play. Even through the books none of us have seen Dayne fight, we've just heard stories that I'm sure get talked up over the years. Of course Selmy is going to be obsessed with him, he wanted to be him, Ned Stark was involved with killing him so you know he's going to talk about how amazing he was, that's Ned's way. But none of us really "know". We've seen Jaimie, Selmy, the Clegane's, ect... I mean shite if Dayne was so amazing why did Robert sit on the Iron Throne? It's all reputation, I'm not saying he isn't one of the best, but I'm not ready to say he'd easily beat all these guys just because people talk him up in legends and history

need to make my picks

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ROUND 1
(1) Arthur Dayne v (16) Knight of the Laughing Tree (this ones kind of a lore vs. lore

(8) Khal Drogo v (9) Qhorin Halfhand (Drogo too fast)

(5) Gerold Hightower v (12) Arys Oakheart

(4) Ned Stark v (13) Magnar of Thenn (Jon could beat Tyr IMO)

(6) Blackfish Tully v (11) Brienne( the Blackfish is tough, but I dk, this was a hard one

(3) Barristan Selmy v (14) Tormund Giantsbane

(7) Sandor Clegane v (10) Greatjon Umber

(2) Gregor Clegane v (15) Wun Wun (LOL)


(1) Jaime Lannister v (16) Boros Blount

(8) Strong Belwas v (9) Victarion Greyjoy

(5) Areo Hotah v (12) Mance Rayder (Hotah is a dark horse in this)

(4) Rhaegar Targaryen v (13) Darkstar

(6) Bronn v (11) Beric Dondarrion

(3) Red Viper v (14) Syrio Forel

(7) Loras Tyrell v (10) Dragonknight

(2) Robert Baratheon v (15) Euron Greyjoy (maybe the easiest fight of the tourney)

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If Dayne was really so much better than all of them, he'd still be alive, I'm just saying...

I'm not saying he's not great, but he's so popular because he took an interest in the common folk, paying for what his troops took and destroyed. Also he beat the Kingswood Brotherhood outlaws and killed the Smiling knight, who by all accounts was insane and kind of like The Mountain...

So you take care of the people below you, and rid the world of some evil outlaws and a guy everyone hates, people are going to like you. He also lost to Rhaegar TWICE in tournaments, who is a 4 seed in this tourney. And apparently he was stopped thanks to Howland Reed, who isn't even in the top 32...And I know he was out numbered, the war was lost already, ect ect... But still

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Ned, Jaime, and Barristan have thought of him quite a few times, and they themselves all think they look like a bunch of pussies next to him.

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When badasses think you are a badass, you get some props.


But you know what's wrong with this matchup....the truly unsung hero?

Howland Reed.

Dude would cut up three quarters of the list.

Unless you are counting him as the Knight of the Laughing Tree.

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He fights dirty with poison.

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And? We don't really know exactly how he died, but seems to me like he died in battle, poison wouldn't help a ton there, unless it's super fast acting.

Look like I said, I'm not saying he isn't one of the best, I'm not even saying he shouldn't be the one seed. I'm just saying everyone thinks he's so amazing because people talk him up bc he was a truly great man and very honorable, but we don't really know, and there were people before him, and people after him, who have more impressive resume's

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If Dayne was really so much better than all of them, he'd still be alive, I'm just saying...

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Negative. It was at best, 7 against 3. From what we read, it is Ned Stark, Howland Reed, and I think a Dustin that he faces and almost defeats. None of these guys were pulling off 10 vs. 1 bullshite like in the movies. The Dragonknight, way underrated on here, was killed by two brothers while he was defending the king. Sandor Clegane was ultimately "killed" by 3 ordinary lackeys of his brother. Jamie Lannister was captured after being overwhelmed. He only managed to kill two of his captors. Neither of which were anything special.

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He also lost to Rhaegar TWICE in tournaments

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Jousting is not single combat. Robert couldn't joust worth a shite, but was one of the biggest badasses in the history of the realm.


And I stand by my previous post. I think all of these guys would be in big trouble if Daemon Blackfyre would have rolled up on them.

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o the opinion of Ned Stark, Barristan Selmy and Jaime Lannister doesn't matter?

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I didn't say they didn't matter, but guys talkign fondly of a past hero doesn't immediately make me think Dayne is the greatest fighter in the history of ever...

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It wasn't exactly a fair fight at the tower.

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True enough, but they were 3 members of the Kingsguard, I'm not saying 7 vs. 3 is fair, but there's tails of people being outnumbered worse and winning. (I do think Dayne was the best fighter in the Tower no doubt)

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I'm not sure the outcome of jousting tournament against the Prince of a lunatic king would matter in a sword fight

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That's a fair point, but what does Rhaegars dad have to do with it?

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Can someone please ask GRRM to come in here and give his opinion?

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I am GRRM

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I am GRRM

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Hurry...the...frick...up!