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Posted on 4/18/12 at 1:53 pm to Napoleon
last year it changed, they had several different versions of it, ie The Eyrie, Pentos, etc
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Posted on 4/18/12 at 1:58 pm to Antonio Moss
I stand corrected, never noticed the story in the title sequence either.
This stands for Robert's rebellion'
I like the lion attacking the dragon from behind while the Stag attacks the head.
This stands for Robert's rebellion'
I like the lion attacking the dragon from behind while the Stag attacks the head.
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Posted on 4/18/12 at 4:36 pm to Rex
If you have access to HBOGo you can watch episodes with guides that detail things like who's who.
I watched the first season without the books and starting reading shortly after so I understand. I looked at the interactive map on the HBO website and character descriptions for help.
I also check out the Tower of the Hand website. It has great info and you can set your scope to what you've read and/or seen up to this point. I highly recommend it.
I watched the first season without the books and starting reading shortly after so I understand. I looked at the interactive map on the HBO website and character descriptions for help.
I also check out the Tower of the Hand website. It has great info and you can set your scope to what you've read and/or seen up to this point. I highly recommend it.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 5:13 pm to BluegrassBelle
Somebody answer me this:
I know that his father appointed Tyrion the King's Hand in his absence, but how is it that Tywin got to make that choice and how does he stay in that position when Joffrey doesn't seem to be particularly fond of him? Why wouldn't Joffrey, who's asserting himself in other areas, not make his own choice?
I know that his father appointed Tyrion the King's Hand in his absence, but how is it that Tywin got to make that choice and how does he stay in that position when Joffrey doesn't seem to be particularly fond of him? Why wouldn't Joffrey, who's asserting himself in other areas, not make his own choice?
Posted on 4/18/12 at 5:16 pm to Rex
Because men will fight for Tywin before they would Joffrey if it came down to it. The kid is batshit crazy but in this instance he knows where his bread is buttered.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 5:18 pm to BluegrassBelle
Makes sense. Thanks.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 5:28 pm to Rex
Because he's Tywin fricking Lannister.
And who are you, the proud lord said,
That I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
That's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
A lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
As long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
That lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
With no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
And not a soul to hear.
And who are you, the proud lord said,
That I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
That's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
A lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
As long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
That lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
With no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
And not a soul to hear.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 5:43 pm to HempHead
Poor House Reyne.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:03 pm to PsychTiger
I'm on Book 3 and I still don't know who the focal character is. It appears to be the Stark children, but none of them really have established themselves as the lead player. I'm guessing John Snow. No complaints however. This is a great series with miles of depth to the plot.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:17 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
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I'm on Book 3 and I still don't know who the focal character is.
There's never one focal character IMO. A handful that carry the most weight, but never just one.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:29 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
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I'm on Book 3 and I still don't know who the focal character is. It appears to be the Stark children, but none of them really have established themselves as the lead player. I'm guessing John Snow. No complaints however. This is a great series with miles of depth to the plot.
This is the story of a period of time in westeros. Its not about a single person just this one era. Its kind of like asking who the main character in the great depression was. Sure some men are more important than others but the story isnt necessarily ABOUT them.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:40 pm to Rex
Honestly, I watch them on computer and usually have a wiki page of characters and a map up. 
So, IMO, you have a point, but watchagonnado?
So, IMO, you have a point, but watchagonnado?
Posted on 4/19/12 at 8:03 am to mizzoukills
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It wouldn't be hard if you simply read the books. The show would be 100 times better if you read the books.
However, if you haven't read the books, I can understand your confusion.
I completely agree. I watched the first season in two days then read the first book and rewatched the first season. It made it much easier to follow and I had lots of "ooooohhhh, THAT's who that is" moments b/c I definitely missed some and had some confusion the first time.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 8:26 am to SaintEB
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There are many documents to this nature. I would say a simple google search would suffice, but that would probably lead to spoilers. The books, in the appendix, has a listing of the families histories and their bannermen. Also, HBOGo has a cool little interactive map with alot of this info too.
You just have to want it.
All of this is great and I take advantage of this. Also, the book readers have no issues either. But the casual fan (my wife) is slowly getting turned off because it's not exactly TV friendly. Some people just want to watch 1 hour a week and spend no more time looking at ancillary information. They just want to be entertained, not engrossed for days.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 8:27 am to Trauma14
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Some people just want to watch 1 hour a week and spend no more time looking at ancillary information.
Then expect to be a bit confused.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 8:46 am to OMLandshark
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Tyrells
God bless HBOs interpretation of margaery tyrell
Posted on 4/19/12 at 8:49 am to SaintEB
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Then expect to be a bit confused.
You missed the point. GoT is turning out to be not for casual fans. The book does not set up for an easy to follow TV series which will eventually push off the casual fan who expects to watch 1 episode a week and NOT be confused.
I do think there is a large enough contingent of fanatics to keep the show very popular.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:08 am to mizzoukills
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mizzoukills
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It wouldn't be hard if you simply read the books. The show would be 100 times better if you read the books.
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However, if you haven't read the books, I can understand your confusion. So much happens in the book and so many families exist that the show does the best it can do to introduce everyone properly and somehow offer an explanation of who they are and why they're important.
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If you had already read the books, you'd want to tell everyone how all of the families and characters relate to the story.
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The show is simply amazing and that's because I've read the books...
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There are times in the books when a major character isn't mentioned for over 100 pages. The show is following the books they very best that it can. Easily one of the very best movie adaptations to a book series. That's because George R.R. Martin consults the filmmakers.
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That's what I said a few posts back. People who haven't read the books need to pay attention to the map at the beginning of each episode...
...so you're saying it would be a good idea to read the books before watching the show? I'm confused now.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:13 am to ThisWayChad
Yes, I'd suggest that anyone who likes the show start reading the books so that by season 3 you'll know what the hell is going on.
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