re: Force Awakens Revisited

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I respectfully disagree. The way he was presented really seems to have trivialized his decision to not join the dark side in the original trilogy. He seemed unable to prevent the dark side from resurfacing and seemed extremely weak, which is not really the way I wanted to see the character after all these years.

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That's a lot of presumptions that I sure as hell didn't get. Let's just wait for the next movie before jumping to conclusions.

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I think maybe in the grand scheme of the overall series this movie maybe looked back on as a chance to do some cool stuff with Luke that was not capitalized on.

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AMazing when people say shite like this before seeing the rest of the trilogy.


You could say the same thing about a bunch of characters if you watch A New Hope and have never seen Empire or Return.

That said, i am a little wary of Episode VIII seeing as we we lost both Kasdan and Abrams.

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I would take 50 year old Leia over slave Leia any day of the week. Can you say getiatric heat? Smoking hot!!!!!

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Luke maybe strong in the force but there is no way that dude had intercourse with anybody. Tried to make out with his sister and was always playing with his lightsaber. No way he is a dad.

Another thing that bothered me was captain phasma. Im mean her presense significantly changes the engineering of the death star planet. They probably had to add tampon dispensers to storm trooper quarters and increase the circumference of the pipes in all the toilets so tampons can be flushed.

One of the priveledges of being lurker admin emeritus is you get to see who downvotes you. I know who you are you rotten bastard.

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One of the priveledges of being lurker admin emeritus is you get to see who downvotes you. I know who you are you rotten bastard.

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Well, it was me who downvoted you on your last post. It was simply awful. Try that at a comedy club sometime.

I didn't downvote the one at the top of the page though.

I am not going to downvote you because I am an adult man that would rather discuss your post and try to understand your view when its different from mine.

I don't know. Maybe these broads in Viagra commercials need to come to grip with the fact they are kinda creepy ladies. They are abnormally thin, dull crazy eyes, and live in a treehouse. Maybe the guys non erect penis has the right idea.

Many things in the Force Awakens do not stand to scrutiny once the initial wow factor of seeing it in the theater wears off. I still think of it as better than any of the prequel films (which I enjoy), but it makes some pretty unforgivable missteps.

For one, Poe's X-Wing has more screen time than Poe himself. We don't really learn a lot about Poe aside from he "can fly anything and he's "a really great pilot." This means I'm a lot less concerned with his well being in the attack on Starkiller base. He's also kind of a dick. He promises the droid he will come back for him, forces Finn to return to Jakku in order to retrieve the droid then leaves the droid on Jakku and heads back to the Resistance base (how he gets back is cut from the film).

He also does not share a single scene with Rey. If Poe will be one of the leading characters in the new trilogy, I would've expected Poe, Rey, and Finn to interact with one another in all three films so we can see their friendship grow over the course of the events of the movies. As it stands now, Poe doesn't even know Rey.

I wasn't the biggest fan of the scene aboard Han and Chewie's cargo ship. It seemed out of place in the film and the giant CGI monster chasing the heroes felt like a bad parody of Episodes 1-3.

This is where you start to notice a lot of stuff in the film doesn't stand up to scrutiny such as when Han and Chewie blast to lightspeed inside a hanger. Later on, they land on Starkiller base coming out of lightspeed in order to make it through their shields. Not even getting into how it is ridiculous in the first place, never before in Star Wars lore has it been explained how this is possible, and while I realize it would likely take a pretty good pilot to pull off a stunt like that, planetary shields are pretty much useless now that we know a crack pilot can just pull out of lightspeed right after passing through the shields (Poe will never have to worry about shield generators).

The concept of Starkiller base isn't bad in theory, but it wasn't handled as well as it should have been. You could ask how the Imperial Remnant managed to obtain the resources to build such a thing, but honestly that doesn't even bother me that much.

How does it work? I get that it siphons energy from a sun but does it suck just a little bit of energy from a sun then suck more later when it comes back or does it suck the sun of all it's energy? If all the energy is gone, how does it feed off of more stars? Can it move? If not, at some point they're going to run out of stars and basically be a giant paperweight.

The laser beam it fires, I am to understand it is a sub-lightspeed weapon? How does it travel across the galaxy in matter of seconds let alone how does it even know where the planet would be at that particular moment? Planets don't stand still.

It just sounds like something JJ Abrams added to the film because he thought it would look cool and a giant planetoid-sized space station was "Star Warsy"

Secondly, when Starkiller base blows up the Hosnian system, for starters, the audience doesn't know where the frick they are. Most people thought it was Coruscant because it looked similar, and if not for a few characters whispering "Hosnian System," no one would still know where the frick the Resistance base was located. Even then, what is "Hosnian System?" Is Coruscant in that system? Who lives there? Why should I care?

Why can I see the Hosnian system blowing up from Takodana? According to the official galaxy map, Takodana is nowhere near Hosnian Prime. Yet another shot that I assume JJ just thought would look cool.

On the subject of planets, why does every planet aside from Jakku look like the exact same place? Every other planet is a generic forest landscape except Luke's planet which could've easily just been the same planet in another part of the world. Just because they didn't really have the capability of giving us true alien-looking worlds in 1983 doesn't mean we shouldn't see some fantastic sights in a film made in 2015.

When Finn, Poe, and Han return to the Resistance base and they discuss Starkiller base, it's basically 5 guys standing around a table going, "this is the death star. Now THIS is Starkillerbase. How do we blow it up? There's always a way to blow it up" These lines are delivered with such urgency and gusto that it's almost like the actors themselves realized how goofy this was.

The assault on Starkiller Base felt rushed. It was far too easy for Rey, Finn, and geriatric Han Solo to make it to the shield controls for the base. I'm not sure they had to fire a single blaster shot on screen.

Meanwhile, x-wings shoot tie fighters outside for some reason.

Too much of Han, Finn, and Rey sneaking around Starkiller base is skipped over. They kidnap Captain Phasma in one scene then the very next scene, they're at the shield controls with two dead guards. Why not show the fire fight? In another scene, Han and Finn spot Rey climping a wall across a huge chasm and 5 seconds later, Rey and Finn are hugging each other? How far did they have to go to meet up? Where guards nowhere to be found? In another scene, Rey is outside and has Finn's coat. In the next scene, they are inside again and Finn has his coat back. Wut?