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re: Fantastic Four Reborn

Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:39 pm to
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Scruffy is incorrect.
I could've sworn that Wonder Woman in the DC vs Marvel comic was considered black.

Posted by Murray
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:40 pm to
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I could've sworn that Wonder Woman in the DC vs Marvel comic was considered black.


That was Storm with Wonder Woman powers homie

Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:41 pm to


Thats it. I was wrong.

fricking cross universes and whatnot.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:43 pm to
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I still think they kill off Iron Man in Avengers 2 and he gets replaced by War Machine....who is black.


That's start of the Blavengers. War Machine for IM, Black Panther for Cap, Luke Cage for Hulk, and Falcon for Thor I guess.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:44 pm to
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Falcon for Thor I guess.
Nah, just replace Thor was Idris Elba.



BRILLIANT!!
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:45 pm to
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That's start of the Blavengers. War Machine for IM, Black Panther for Cap, Luke Cage for Hulk, and Falcon for Thor I guess


Replace Beta Ray Bill with Falcon for Thor and I'm all about this
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:55 pm to
And they would still keep Scarlett Johanson around since her codename is Black Widow.

Falcon could replace Hawkeye.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:57 pm to
Fantastic Four with the ONE TRUE Human Torch (otherwise known as Herbie):

Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14840 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:57 pm to
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And they would still keep Scarlett Johanson around since her codename is Black Widow.


Agreed. Her wooty would make her perfectly acceptable on an all black team.

Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:05 pm to
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I swear Hollywood will diversify just to make it pc.



is this about being pc, or more of a publicity stunt?
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:06 pm to


is Reed Richards gonna have to smack a bitch?
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:12 pm to
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One thing that I've learned over the years is that comic book fans want accuracy.

And instead they've been treated to a steady stream of Clones, Life Model Decoys, Alien Symbiotes, Skrull impersonators who took character's places for years, Space Phantom impersonators, Crisis type almost total reboots, characters being alive, dead, alive, dead, alive dead, etc. etc. since pretty much the inception of the comic book medium.

I think they'll be able to handle a Human Torch with a little more pigmentation.

I still want them to get a true blond Sue Storm though.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:15 pm to
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And instead they've been treated to a steady stream of Clones, Life Model Decoys, Alien Symbiotes, Skrull impersonators who took character's places for years, Space Phantom impersonators, Crisis type almost total reboots, characters being alive, dead, alive, dead, alive dead, etc. etc. since pretty much the inception of the comic book medium.
Hey, thats prospective stuff, not retrospective.

I get your point though.

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I think they'll be able to handle a Human Torch with a little more pigmentation.
They'll bitch. Oh yes, they will bitch.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:20 pm to
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I think they'll be able to handle a Human Torch with a little more pigmentation.


umm.

when he is supposed to be the brother of one of the whitest women in comics I'm sorry but that is a stupid arse thing to do.

if they really want a black character in FF it should be Reed Richards or The Thing.

if you make the Human Torch a black man, you MUST make Sue Storm black as well. That would be a hell of a lot more acceptable than having one be white and one be black.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77498 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:27 pm to
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you MUST make Sue Storm black as well.
Heads would literally EXPLODE.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 2:27 pm to
You care about Sue Storm's hair color, but not her brother's skin color? Someone is bending over hard to show how tolerant and accepting he is.
Posted by HeadCoach
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 3:19 pm to
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Posted by HeadCoach
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 3:20 pm to
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doesn't mean I'm racist. It's people like you in this country...

Anyways, why not make the black panther or falcon white or hispanic?


Never said you were. Telling you think I did. But yea, your solution of turning the 1-2 black heroes white proves your tolerance. Good Call!
Posted by Methuselah
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 3:22 pm to
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You care about Sue Storm's hair color, but not her brother's skin color? Someone is bending over hard to show how tolerant and accepting he is.


Yes I do. But I don't have any claim to be tolerant and accepting. Some things about comic book adaptations of comics I grew up with just bother me while some don't. Sue Storm should be blond dammint. A black Human Torch I can accept if well done. Heck, the original WWII era Jim Hammond Human Torch wasn't even human. He was an android or synthozoid.

It also didn't bother me that Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch went from being the children of Ms. America and the Wizard to being the children of Magneto and Magda.

Now Alicia Masters being a Skrull for a long arse time was aggravating (same with Hank Pym).
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 3:24 pm
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 3:49 pm to
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But yea, your solution of turning the 1-2 black heroes white proves your tolerance.


Not really, if the race of the hero doesn't matter to you, you shouldn't care about it right? As long as the character is written properly.
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