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re: 'Dunkirk' Discussion Thread - Spoilers
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:16 pm to JabarkusRussell
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:16 pm to JabarkusRussell
Just got out and really liked it but I agree with others that it is not the easiest to follow. I like the prestige better but it's one of nolan's better movies
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Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:21 pm to south bama tiger
Watch it in 70mm if you are lucky enough to have a IMAX theater playing it.
You honestly cannot begin to overstate the immersive value.
Especially if you get in one with a dome format that you are basically laying down looking upward at.
You honestly cannot begin to overstate the immersive value.
Especially if you get in one with a dome format that you are basically laying down looking upward at.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:36 pm to Volvagia
One comment I had in my head mid movie however:
Where were the 400,000?
Think the LSU campus on Gameday times 3.....but all we see are nice orderly lines of troops ready to go.
Contrast it with the other Dunkirk movie some time ago (the one whose one-shot take game is on a whole new level). Everything was there. From shell shocked troops, hard cases, drunkards, and wholesale destruction of vehicles, equipment, and horses so the Germans can't get it.
Especially after they indicate the front was within easy walking distance in 2 directions.
ETA: Here it is. One shot 5 min long, that "feels" more real than anything in this films setting. The only part that Nolan's story shines is the tangents surrounding the civilian boat. The Dunkirk scenes themselves are a flop outside of those beautiful BEAUTIFUL Stukka sirens
LINK
And the post evacuation scene where the Admiral was prepping for the French evacuation was a little jarring with how it was edited into the wind down sequence.
Where were the 400,000?
Think the LSU campus on Gameday times 3.....but all we see are nice orderly lines of troops ready to go.
Contrast it with the other Dunkirk movie some time ago (the one whose one-shot take game is on a whole new level). Everything was there. From shell shocked troops, hard cases, drunkards, and wholesale destruction of vehicles, equipment, and horses so the Germans can't get it.
Especially after they indicate the front was within easy walking distance in 2 directions.
ETA: Here it is. One shot 5 min long, that "feels" more real than anything in this films setting. The only part that Nolan's story shines is the tangents surrounding the civilian boat. The Dunkirk scenes themselves are a flop outside of those beautiful BEAUTIFUL Stukka sirens
LINK
And the post evacuation scene where the Admiral was prepping for the French evacuation was a little jarring with how it was edited into the wind down sequence.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:09 pm to Volvagia
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One shot 5 min long, that "feels" more real than anything in this films setting. The only part that Nolan's story shines is the tangents surrounding the civilian boat. The Dunkirk scenes themselves are a flop outside of those beautiful BEAUTIFUL Stukka sirens
A guy who was actually there says otherwise
quote:
It was a very good, the whole thing was really realistic, makes you think you’re back there,” Wagner says of the movie, which starsFionn Whitehead, Harry Styles, Tom Hardy and Mark Rylance. “Being that long ago, it was died with the memory. But when I saw the film, I was brought back.”
LINK
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:35 am to jg8623
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A guy who was actually there says otherwise
Maybe he was talking about the feeling of being there.
Nolan's Dunkirk:
Real Dunkirk:
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--Painting commissioned by British armed forces
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:08 am to Lawyered
A helluva job by Nolan. An ever been better job by Hans Zimmer.
It's just such an amazing movie. I wanted more
It's just such an amazing movie. I wanted more
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:36 pm to Volvagia
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Watch it in 70mm if you are lucky enough to have a IMAX theater playing it.
This is how I saw it. Great movie but WAY too loud.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
Saw it. It is a great movie. Will watch again.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:47 pm to MajorTiger
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Technically and visually, one of the most impressive movies I've ever seen. The cinematography is incredible.
I know this board likes to backlash on Nolan worship so go ahead and do that but I saw this a couple of hours ago and I was astounded by this movie.
It was visually one of the best movies I have ever seen. The cinematography was incredible.
Nolan put my nuts in a vice and slowly cranked down on them for almost 2 hours.
The sound was incredible. It was immersive.
Anyone saying there was a lack of character development, to them I say there wasn't supposed to be. That wasn't a goal of this movie.
Anyone that walked out of that movie, especially in IMAX or 70mm and didn't feel like they had experienced something very special should have went to see Girl's Trip.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 5:25 pm to Volvagia
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Watch it in 70mm if you are lucky enough to have a IMAX theater playing it.
Got out from seeing it in a 70MM Imax an hour or so ago and it was incredible. Screen seemed massive, I hadn't seen one in that format before (Saw Interstellar in normal Imax).
Movie was awesome and the people talking about the score being incredible really built up my hopes and it still managed to blow me away.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:39 pm to pjab
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As far as people jumping off the boats, some looked like Titanic.
After watching the movie I went to IMDB for fun facts on the movie.
Mark Rylance's character was based on Charles Lightroller, the second officer on the Titanic. He had a boat at Dunkirk and lost a son earlier in the war.
read the thread because Iwas interested,don't think anyone mentioned that yet
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:15 pm to gthog61
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Mark Rylance's character was based on Charles Lightroller, the second officer on the Titanic. He had a boat at Dunkirk and lost a son earlier in the war.
Wow.
Charles Lightoller. It was Lt. Lightoller that send many llifeboats away from Titanic half empty or less.
LINK
Lt. Lightoller turned over the officer of the watch on RMS Titanic to Lt. Murdoch, the First officer, about 15 minutes before the collision.
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This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:49 pm to WhiskeyPapa
ok the small craft that was beached, waiting for the tide, then got all shot up. Was this the boat you see for a second off in the distance from the dock? Or did I get that wrong?
The naval captain points it out I believe.
The naval captain points it out I believe.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:04 pm to Volvagia
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Real Dunkirk:
I get your point, but he had thousands of extras on set. His hate of cgi probably stopped him from from creating those images of that many people, but it's nitpicking at that point
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:08 pm to Scoop
I have to go the other way. Was a good movie but was underwhelmed. (Side note: 70mm IMAX may have been the biggest disappointment. Saw it at the Cinemark in Boca Raton. The entire time I was thinking "this is IMAX?" Normal screen, sounded pretty much the same).
On to the movie: the biggest weakness was the complete lack of scale. You never get the feeling that the entire British Army is in peril of elimination from the Luftwaffe. Single HEs attacking at a time? There should have been entire squadrons of level bombers hitting the pier or bigger ships. The air to air action was a real let down. Did any of the fighters ever crank in more than 30° angle of bank or 15° nose up/down? ACM is violent and physically grueling. The pilots looked like they were turning final to land a Cessna at hometown airport. The dogfight where the Bf109 was on the tail of the RAF plane and the other RAF fighter was daisy-chained on the Bf's tail looked like they were towing banners along the beach. If I had a 109 blasting cannon shells at me I would have been doing some yanking and banking and pulling a little more than 1.2Gs. And when either a fighter or bomber was hit you could almost hear the Special Effects Coordinator say, "Turn on smoke generator NOW!" You get hosed down by six or eight .30 cals pieces of aircraft are getting blown off.
I was prepared for the non-chronological format so that didn't throw me. But I'm not sure all movie goers ever pieced together that Cillian Murphy's shell shocked character was the same from the night scene on the life boat. More of an observation than a criticism.
The death of the young kid was a headscratcher. He falls and then is dead? Huh? Plus, his whole arc could have been eliminated without losing anything. I'm guessing he was written in to bring attention to (and personalize) the sacrifices the civilians made in the rescue effort. Just thought it was executed pretty clumsily and unbelievably.
Minor quibble: one scene panning vehicles on the beach looked like there was a Jeep. The BEF in 1940 had no jeeps yet as they weren't being produced until '41. Not a big deal but if we're exalting this as an all-time classic it bears noting.
Another minor technical quibble: did anyone else notice the bullet holes appearing in the hull made no sense? There was water rushing in the first grouping and then holes appear about a foot below those. Wouldn't that part of the hull be below the water line already?
I thought it was a decent, but nowhere near classic movie. Did a bad job of imparting the danger to the sealift as a whole - unless you think the Luftwaffe had about a dozen planes total.
On to the movie: the biggest weakness was the complete lack of scale. You never get the feeling that the entire British Army is in peril of elimination from the Luftwaffe. Single HEs attacking at a time? There should have been entire squadrons of level bombers hitting the pier or bigger ships. The air to air action was a real let down. Did any of the fighters ever crank in more than 30° angle of bank or 15° nose up/down? ACM is violent and physically grueling. The pilots looked like they were turning final to land a Cessna at hometown airport. The dogfight where the Bf109 was on the tail of the RAF plane and the other RAF fighter was daisy-chained on the Bf's tail looked like they were towing banners along the beach. If I had a 109 blasting cannon shells at me I would have been doing some yanking and banking and pulling a little more than 1.2Gs. And when either a fighter or bomber was hit you could almost hear the Special Effects Coordinator say, "Turn on smoke generator NOW!" You get hosed down by six or eight .30 cals pieces of aircraft are getting blown off.
I was prepared for the non-chronological format so that didn't throw me. But I'm not sure all movie goers ever pieced together that Cillian Murphy's shell shocked character was the same from the night scene on the life boat. More of an observation than a criticism.
The death of the young kid was a headscratcher. He falls and then is dead? Huh? Plus, his whole arc could have been eliminated without losing anything. I'm guessing he was written in to bring attention to (and personalize) the sacrifices the civilians made in the rescue effort. Just thought it was executed pretty clumsily and unbelievably.
Minor quibble: one scene panning vehicles on the beach looked like there was a Jeep. The BEF in 1940 had no jeeps yet as they weren't being produced until '41. Not a big deal but if we're exalting this as an all-time classic it bears noting.
Another minor technical quibble: did anyone else notice the bullet holes appearing in the hull made no sense? There was water rushing in the first grouping and then holes appear about a foot below those. Wouldn't that part of the hull be below the water line already?
I thought it was a decent, but nowhere near classic movie. Did a bad job of imparting the danger to the sealift as a whole - unless you think the Luftwaffe had about a dozen planes total.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:11 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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70mm IMAX may have been the biggest disappointment. Saw it at the Cinemark in Boca Raton. The entire time I was thinking "this is IMAX?" Normal screen, sounded pretty much the same)
Are you sure it was a 70mm IMAX showing? Not just regular IMAX? And it sounded just normal? Regular IMAX I saw it was the sound was ridiculously loud
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:13 pm to jg8623
Yup. 70mm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:14 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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The death of the young kid was a headscratcher. He falls and then is dead? Huh?
He hit his head on some sort of metal valve wheel or something. It was kind of random though
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:16 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Yup. 70mm
Just 70mm or 70mm IMAX. Because they have both and they are very different. Regular 70mm is a normal size screen, just better picture quality cause it's film not digital
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:18 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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On to the movie: the biggest weakness was the complete lack of scale. You never get the feeling that the entire British Army is in peril of elimination from the Luftwaffe. Single HEs attacking at a time? There should have been entire squadrons of level bombers hitting the pier or bigger ships.
You make a good point. But the Allies did pull off 338,000 troops in nine days while the GAF did its worst.
To me one of the biggest artsy-fartsy things of the whole movie is how Nolan minimized all the threats. It was just as if the main characters went against their own individual threats. It was almost like a play where the characters enter and exit stage left or stage right. There wasn't going to be a giant CGI fight like in Avatar.
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