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re: Disney’s Raya and the Last Dragon reviews show that society has lost its damn mind
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:02 pm to McCaigBro69
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:02 pm to McCaigBro69
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Also, the obsession of gender and homosexuality is something that pops up and becomes a big culture fight in every successful empire before the downfall
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:08 pm to skrayper
I think Michael Malice talked about that the last time he was on Rogan's podcast.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:29 pm to OMLandshark
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I think Michael Malice talked about that the last time he was on Rogan's podcast.
I'll give it a listen, but pretty sure that's nonsense.
Homosexuality was allowed by the Roman Empire at the peak of its power.
It was allowed from 146 BCE until 342 AD, by Christian emperors Constantius II and Constans
Rome was sacked 70 years later.
The Roman Empire was LESS accepting of homosexuality at its collapse, not more.
Not that it had anything to do with its fall, but being "more accepting" has nothing to do with it - they embraced Hellenistic teachings from Greece when they first started, which was very high on male homosexuality.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:32 pm to skrayper
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skrayper
I'm actually with you on that. I did raise an eyebrow at this. That would be fair to claim that about Athens though.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:35 pm to OMLandshark
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That would be fair to claim that about Athens though.
I guess, if you ignore literally everything else that was happening during the time frame.
No Empire has ever fallen to a single "reason", but a myriad of them that - quite honestly - both the Right and Left have championed. Saying it happened because "oh noes the gays" or "oh noes the rich" is such a simplistic view of history. I mean, about the only thing you can't claim has destroyed Empires is the Large Hadron Collider.
Give me enough time, and I'm sure I could say enough of them ended while Mars was in retrograde to claim THAT was the reason.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 4:22 pm to skrayper
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People on the Right feel that the Left is about changing everything, abandoning the core concepts of society, and taking anything a hard working person has ever earned and give it away.
Nah, people on the right believe individuals are better at charity than government, and charity should be voluntary instead of forced. And those people are correct. Every time the government gets money it proves those people are correct.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 5:10 pm to Lawyered
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Frozen was a step in the right direction with its emphasis on sisterly love, but it couldn’t resist shoehorning a thematically superfluous romance into its plot with the Kristoff character. Moana, which features Disney’s first Polynesian heroine
Both examples completely ignore Lilo and Stitch.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 6:34 pm to OMLandshark
Dan Murrell’s review is the only one I trust
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:11 pm to OMLandshark
Disney and Pixar make nothing but ethnic films now (Raya, Coco, Soul).
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:14 pm to JabarkusRussell
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Disney and Pixar make nothing but ethnic films now (Raya, Coco, Soul).
I mean all of them are pretty fricking good. If you’re going to have jazz as major component to a movie, yeah you probably need to cast a black person to do it. As for Coco if you’re doing Day of the Dead, you don’t have much of a choice there either. And Raya is an Eastern martial arts influenced movie, so yeah, do that. Plus Frozen 2 just came out. I don’t see anything wrong with this.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:24 pm to JabarkusRussell
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Disney and Pixar make nothing but ethnic films now (Raya, Coco, Soul).
Since 2015 Pixar's movies have been Inside Out, The Good Dinosaur, Finding Dory, Coco, Incredibles 2, Toy Story 4, Onward, and Soul.
Since 2014 Walt Disney Animation's movies have been Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana, Ralph Breaks the Internet, Frozen 2, and Raya.
That's 4 out of 14 flicks bruh.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:27 pm to Dr RC
And while I can’t fully speak for Raya (when I first saw the trailer I was pretty sure I was going to enjoy it), those are all great films. And hell I’d argue that Coco and Soul are actually pretty right leaning films as well on top of that.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:31 pm to JabarkusRussell
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Disney and Pixar make nothing but ethnic films now (Raya, Coco, Soul).
You are missing like 10-12 other movies theyve released in that time about talking toys, animals, elves, superheroes, and white people. Plenty variety and plenty non-ethnic movies mixed in there. Pixar has made a movie of only white Scottish people in Brave. Basing movies on multiple cultures adds a lot of fun visual variety outside of just what color the characters are.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:33 pm to hth52
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Basing movies on multiple cultures adds a lot of fun visual variety outside of just what color the characters are.
Yeah, and Southeast Asia brings a lot of fantastic visuals. It’s in the Top 5 for most naturally beautiful places in the world.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:34 pm to OMLandshark
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And while I can’t fully speak for Raya (when I first saw the trailer I was pretty sure I was going to enjoy it), those are all great films. And hell I’d argue that Coco and Soul are actually pretty right leaning films as well on top of that.
The Pixar films may unintentionally be right leaning, but it's just that: unintentional. You don't have to believe me. Just watch the "Inside Pixar" series on Disney+. It makes the company's views pretty clear.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:41 pm to imjustafatkid
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The Pixar films may unintentionally be right leaning, but it's just that: unintentional. You don't have to believe me. Just watch the "Inside Pixar" series on Disney+. It makes the company's views pretty clear.
I don’t know. Coco’s message I got from it is “Don’t put fame and fortune over your family, because it won’t only turn you into a monster but they’re the ones who are truly there for you.” Or with Inside Out “Happiness is not the most important emotion; it is sadness. Sadness grounds you to your true meaning of your life and is the emotion that helps you grow into a stronger and better person.” Meanwhile SJWs demand for everything to be removed from society that prevents all emotions but happiness. If Inside Out in the end was a little more overt and cruel to kids in its message it is “frick your safe space”.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:44 pm to OMLandshark
I see where you're coming from, and I don't disagree. It is easy to pull conservative messages from Pixar films. I just don't think it's intentional on their part.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:52 pm to imjustafatkid
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I see where you're coming from, and I don't disagree. It is easy to pull conservative messages from Pixar films. I just don't think it's intentional on their part.
While I may be somewhat reaching somewhat (I really don’t think so), The Incredibles is one of the most conservative animated films ever made. Moral comes from the villain this time and taunts us basically what is happening now:
Posted on 3/3/21 at 5:50 am to OMLandshark
“Destroy those who are viewed as strong so that I feel relatively stronger myself.”
Sounds about the most descriptive message about stress level progressives there could be
Sounds about the most descriptive message about stress level progressives there could be
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