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re: Disney to buy Lucasfilm, Star Wars Episode 7 for 2015

Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:05 pm to
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Well...you might end up being pissed because the original idea of episodes 7, 8, and 9 was to have them be direct sequels to 4, 5, and 6. Maybe Lucas changed his mind but it wouldn't make much sense for 7, 8, and 9 NOT to be direct sequels to the original trilogy when episodes 1, 2, and 3 were direct prequels to 4, 5, and 6.


The story can't move on, without Luke, Han and Leia
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:05 pm to
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The OT/PT were about the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker and his redemption via his son. He's dead. That part of the story is over. Move on from the Skywalkers.


A Star Wars movie without someone named Skywalker is not a Star Wars movie. I'm sorry but that's just how I feel.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:10 pm to
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Star Wars tends to go too dark for Whedon.

Disagree. Is there anything "darker" than the Reavers?

I agree that it should take place long after ep 6 and involve the rebuilding of the Jedi order. I don't give a shite what the books say. I might take elements from them, but they aren't the last word. There is no last word until the final cut is made.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:18 pm to
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Is there anything "darker" than the Reavers?
Finding out your father is the ultimate evil in the galaxy, and that he murdered the greatest force of good in the universe?

There were dark aspects of Buffy, too.

But Star Wars is serious, and takes itself seriously.

You have 2 Whedon-esque characters, Han Solo and 3PO.

He just can't do dark and serious well enough and sustained enough.

Whedon is just wrong for this.

Brad Bird. . .maybe Favreau?
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 10:20 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:24 pm to
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Have them in there but have the story be about their kids or something.

die in a fire



I don't see why it would be that bad of an idea at all to have their kids and grandkids being involved in the story. Perhaps have Luke dead and his son is now head of the Jedi Order and he now has a heavy burden of leading the Jedi Order that faces the threat of extinction once more. I wouldn't make him the main character, but I think the Star Wars franchise will always need a Skywalker.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:26 pm to
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You have to be the worst kind of soulless bastard to hate on 3pio and R2D2.



I don't, but why the frick should Vader have anything to do with 3PO and R2D2? Shouldn't Vader have recognized 3PO in Empire?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:26 pm to
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. . .maybe Favreau?
If picking a director and casting the movie were an episode of Entourage, I could completely see it. Otherwise, frick no.
Posted by TheBiggestSpur
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:27 pm to
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A Star Wars movie without someone named Skywalker is not a Star Wars movie. I'm sorry but that's just how I feel.


No need to be sorry about that, I can feel where you're coming from.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:28 pm to
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This. You go to far ahead/screw the characters completely and you completely screw the whole point of the saga.



Yes, but they don't have to necessarily be present though. You have to make reference to them to be sure, but they don't need to be nor should they be the main characters.
Posted by TheBiggestSpur
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:29 pm to
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I don't, but why the frick should Vader have anything to do with 3PO and R2D2? Shouldn't Vader have recognized 3PO in Empire?


Blame George Lucas.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:31 pm to
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A Star Wars movie without someone named Skywalker is not a Star Wars movie. I'm sorry but that's just how I feel.



Agreed. I may make someone else the main character, like some sort of outsider, which the Skywalker clan certainly can't provide at this point, but I'd certainly make a Skywalker one of the major characters.
Posted by TheBiggestSpur
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:32 pm to
Hell why don't we make one of the primary characters a descendant of Luke? The Skywalker name lives on. We can see what the burden of being a descendant of the man who brought down the Emperor is like. I imagine some people would be happy about that and some wouldn't be. Compare it to Lincoln's legacy. Some people see him as a savior figure and others see him as tyrant.

Just an idea.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65890 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:34 pm to
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Perhaps have Luke dead and his son is now head of the Jedi Order
How would Luke have a son? Luke is the last of the Jedi (holy shite, did I just name this movie?) Jedis aren't supposed to marry and have kids.

I could see a scenario where his next of kin (guess it would have to be Han and Leia's kid) is a guarded secret from some new evil authority, but that's as far as I'd go to having "their kids" in it. Why don't you include some fricking muppet babies while you're at it?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:38 pm to
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How would Luke have a son? Luke is the last of the Jedi (holy shite, did I just name this movie?) Jedis aren't supposed to marry and have kids.



Well, that directly led to the Jedi's demise in the prequels didn't it? I can see them perhaps changing that little aspect to make sure something like that doesn't happen again.

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I could see a scenario where his next of kin (guess it would have to be Han and Leia's kid) is a guarded secret from some new evil authority, but that's as far as I'd go to having "their kids" in it. Why don't you include some fricking muppet babies while you're at it?


Quit being a douchebag, dude. I'm not implying that their descendants should be 5 year olds. I'd personally put them in their 20s-50s.
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 10:39 pm
Posted by blzr
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:47 pm to
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Shouldn't Vader have recognized 3PO in Empire?



I've always wondered this I'm not a huge Star Wars guy, but definitely excited for more.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65890 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:48 pm to
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Quit being a douchebag, dude. I'm not implying that their descendants should be 5 year olds. I'd personally put them in their 20s-50s.

It's just too fricking cute, like the forced inclusion of the droids in the prequels was just too cute.

At best, I say have A descendant of Skywalker's be a lone Jedi trying to rebuild the order, searching the galaxy for candidates, NOT mentioning anything about fricking thetans (or whatever the frick they're called) while being pursued by a new evil power.

And if there are any 16 year old elected monarchs, I'm rioting.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:59 pm to
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Shouldn't Vader have recognized 3PO in Empire?


Vader never comes into contact with them until maybe Cloud City. By that time the first Death Star had already been blown up. Not that it would have mattered because he wanted them to escape with the plans. Anyways, what was he going to do if he had recognized them? Go have a beer and catch up?
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 11:00 pm
Posted by TigerinOkieHell
Oklahoma City
Member since Oct 2010
2874 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:09 pm to
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How would Luke have a son? Luke is the last of the Jedi (holy shite, did I just name this movie?) Jedis aren't supposed to marry and have kids.

I could see a scenario where his next of kin (guess it would have to be Han and Leia's kid) is a guarded secret from some new evil authority, but that's as far as I'd go to having "their kids" in it. Why don't you include some fricking muppet babies while you're at it?


Luke changes that train of thought when he rebuilds the Jedi order, since he is kinda trying to rebuild it from scratch. In fact there are many Jedi married in the novels, all 3 of Han and Leia's kids are Jedi, Luke's is, etc. The Jedi weren't allowed to in the old order because they had a lot of them, and the idea was to prevent attachment that could lead to the dark side. However, Luke felt that complete detachment was never good either.

As for the teenage monarchs, better hope Tenel Ka isn't in the movie
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 11:11 pm
Posted by TheBiggestSpur
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:13 pm to
I imagine the rebuilding of the Jedi Order could be a part of the film as well. Not only are their political structures thrown in disarray, but they essentially have no watchdog "police" group anymore.

Sidenote, Roland Emmerich has been dying to use this sort of idea for Independence Day sequels but hasn't because he has worked on other stuff and wants someone with talent to write so he doesn't have to throw in the towel and write the movie(s) himself.
Posted by TigerinOkieHell
Oklahoma City
Member since Oct 2010
2874 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:17 pm to
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I imagine the rebuilding of the Jedi Order could be a part of the film as well. Not only are their political structures thrown in disarray, but they essentially have no watchdog "police" group anymore.

Sidenote, Roland Emmerich has been dying to use this sort of idea for Independence Day sequels but hasn't because he has worked on other stuff and wants someone with talent to write so he doesn't have to throw in the towel and write the movie(s) himself.


I could see that as well, though the New Republic actually does pretty well with just Luke as a Jedi for the most part. The key difference in the New and Old republics was the fact the Old Republic had no standing military, whereas the New one had standing fleets from the Rebellion to keep peace. In all honesty the Jedi really don't become crucial (as a large group) in a major series other then the Academy series, and the NJO. I will admit though, I would love to see the 2 battles of Coruscant on the big screen against the Vong .
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