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Did D&D ruin GoT to appease their new Disney masters?
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:00 am
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:00 am
I think they did.
Disney is launching Disney+, and if you've been reading the OT thread about it, they pan to pull all of their content from other streaming sites.
And to remind you, their content includes (from the thread):
Disney Head Bob Iger didn't announce D&D as the new runners of thee next Star Wars movie until May 14, when it was finally, undeniably obvious that the ending would suck, thus ruining the whole show.
The next Star Wars movie hitting theaters in 2022 will be from Game of Thrones’ Benioff and Weiss
They couldn't possibly have been reacting to how great the GoT season was. It seemed more like they were satisfied that the series had been sufficiently ruined, complete with all-time low RT and IMDB scores.
The shitty season has had the effect of causing millions to cancel their HBO subscriptions, and Game of Thrones as a long term, handed-down binge-able series has been absolutely crippled. Seriously, I thing seasons 1-6 are the best TV ever broadcast, but I don't really want to watch the series again. Neither do many others. More importantly, people will hesitate to recommend it to others because it's hard to sell a story that starts off great but has a comically stupid ending and completely drops multiple sub-plots built over 8 years. GoT will not have much staying power for these reasons.
So yeah, Disney just so happens to benefit and D&D are named co-dipshits of the next big thing. Pretty clear.
"So you really think they would ruin a whole series bleh bleh bleh compromise reputations bleh stupid shite stupid shite just for the Mouse?"
Yes, I do. They don't give a shite about artistic integrity. They want to continue helming the next big thing, make money and get their asses kissed all the time. And, time permitting, molest some kids.
Disney is launching Disney+, and if you've been reading the OT thread about it, they pan to pull all of their content from other streaming sites.
And to remind you, their content includes (from the thread):
quote:
Marvel, Pixar Animations, Star Wars, ESPN, National Geographic, Modern Family, and The Simpsons. Not to mention all the classic characters like Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.
quote:And Disney now owns 60% of Hulu, the world's second largest streaming service.
Here’s a list of the five highest-earning movies of 2018: Avengers Infinity War Black Panther Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Incredibles 2 Bohemian Rhapsody
All except Jurassic World are Disney productions.
Disney Head Bob Iger didn't announce D&D as the new runners of thee next Star Wars movie until May 14, when it was finally, undeniably obvious that the ending would suck, thus ruining the whole show.
The next Star Wars movie hitting theaters in 2022 will be from Game of Thrones’ Benioff and Weiss
They couldn't possibly have been reacting to how great the GoT season was. It seemed more like they were satisfied that the series had been sufficiently ruined, complete with all-time low RT and IMDB scores.
The shitty season has had the effect of causing millions to cancel their HBO subscriptions, and Game of Thrones as a long term, handed-down binge-able series has been absolutely crippled. Seriously, I thing seasons 1-6 are the best TV ever broadcast, but I don't really want to watch the series again. Neither do many others. More importantly, people will hesitate to recommend it to others because it's hard to sell a story that starts off great but has a comically stupid ending and completely drops multiple sub-plots built over 8 years. GoT will not have much staying power for these reasons.
So yeah, Disney just so happens to benefit and D&D are named co-dipshits of the next big thing. Pretty clear.
"So you really think they would ruin a whole series bleh bleh bleh compromise reputations bleh stupid shite stupid shite just for the Mouse?"
Yes, I do. They don't give a shite about artistic integrity. They want to continue helming the next big thing, make money and get their asses kissed all the time. And, time permitting, molest some kids.
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:02 am to blueboy
So Disney crashed and burned a show that was ending anyway and would be over for 3 years before their movie AND in the process ruined their writers’ reputation...to make more money?
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:09 am to theunknownknight
quote:Thus causing millions to cancel their subscriptions and destroying the re-watchability of the series, that much fewer people will recommend to others.
crashed and burned a show that was ending anyway
Yes. Absolutely.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:10 am to blueboy
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:11 am to blueboy
Meh - people were canceling anyway
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:22 am to theunknownknight
So almost 20m viewers (an hbo record) equals a loss of viewership due to canceled subscriptions?
So Disney convinced d&d to tank a show that ended up making hbo more money, while also tarnishing the reps of the writers they hired to make themselves more money?
Can you better explain your advanced calculus to make this equation make sense?
So Disney convinced d&d to tank a show that ended up making hbo more money, while also tarnishing the reps of the writers they hired to make themselves more money?
Can you better explain your advanced calculus to make this equation make sense?
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:27 am to blueboy
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:28 am to theunknownknight
Hope the reputation suffers to the point where Disney cuts ties.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:29 am to Jay Are
quote:
So almost 20m viewers (an hbo record) equals a loss of viewership due to canceled subscriptions?
So Disney convinced d&d to tank a show that ended up making hbo more money, while also tarnishing the reps of the writers they hired to make themselves more money?
Can you better explain your advanced calculus to make this equation make sense?
Who are you talking to?
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:41 am to theunknownknight
quote:So you missed the dozens of reaction memes, of people cancelling their subscriptions?
Meh - people were canceling anyway
Some would have canceled anyway, but the ending definitely triggered an exodus.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:45 am to blueboy
Yeah I saw that - but the competition is Disney+ and it’s not really a direct competition. It’s an add on streaming service. It’s not like they are airing shows in the same time slots for ad revenue.
People who were with HBO because of GOT are leaving anyway. People who might not leave aren’t going to suddenly leave now because GOT sucked. It’s over. It can’t suck anymore and other shows obviously wouldn’t have the same writers.
Barry is fantastic - best show out now. How does GOT ending affect it’s viewership. If it’s good, it’s good.
People who were with HBO because of GOT are leaving anyway. People who might not leave aren’t going to suddenly leave now because GOT sucked. It’s over. It can’t suck anymore and other shows obviously wouldn’t have the same writers.
Barry is fantastic - best show out now. How does GOT ending affect it’s viewership. If it’s good, it’s good.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:48 am to blueboy
quote:
The next Star Wars movie hitting theaters in 2022 will be from Game of Thrones’ Benioff and Weiss
While the company previously announced two new trilogies from Benioff and Weiss and The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson, it was unclear which creative team’s films would hit theaters first.
This is horrifying
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:50 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
Yep. There it is.
And D&D's "reputation" is great among studios. They made money. Money = good movie to them. S8 was always going to have huge numbers, just like the shitty Star Wars movies. They can always "rebut" critics by quoting the revenue that was built-in to begin with.
The longer term damage to HBO is undeniable.
And D&D's "reputation" is great among studios. They made money. Money = good movie to them. S8 was always going to have huge numbers, just like the shitty Star Wars movies. They can always "rebut" critics by quoting the revenue that was built-in to begin with.
The longer term damage to HBO is undeniable.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:51 am to blueboy
This theory is out there.
What I can't figure out is how did all of the episodes get through HBO executive screenings without any complaints? Are they all just yes men?
What I can't figure out is how did all of the episodes get through HBO executive screenings without any complaints? Are they all just yes men?
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:52 am to blueboy
quote:
Disney Head Bob Iger didn't announce D&D as the new runners of thee next Star Wars movie until May 14, when it was finally, undeniably obvious that the ending would suck, thus ruining the whole show.
Here's an article from February of 2018 where they were actually announced.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 11:54 am
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:54 am to blueboy
They're just shitty writers
They are OK at adapting source material. They are god awful at writing their own
And they are going to make a horrifically terrible Star Wars series.
They are OK at adapting source material. They are god awful at writing their own
And they are going to make a horrifically terrible Star Wars series.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:55 am to theunknownknight
quote:Yes, it really is because HBO subs their stuff to Netflix and others. It's about content, and a great series with a shitty ending isn't attractive as a plum to have.
Yeah I saw that - but the competition is Disney+ and it’s not really a direct competition
quote:Again, you don't seem to have a handle on the volume of residual revenue. One small example? Years from now, FAR fewer people will be telling younger people that they "just have to watch it" like with Star Wars, etc.
How does GOT ending affect it’s viewership.
shite, personally, I've told 2 people to forget I ever urged them to watch it. Before, I begged them to watch it so we could talk about it.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 12:01 pm to blueboy
quote:
Yes, it really is because HBO subs their stuff to Netflix
Really? I can't think of an HBO original show I've seen on Netflix.
You can get HBO on Hulu (owned by Disney) though.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 12:17 pm to blueboy
I'm not seeing how HBO and Disney+ are going to have much crossover?
Are Elsa and Anna gonna be starring in softcore porn at 11pm on a Friday?
Are Elsa and Anna gonna be starring in softcore porn at 11pm on a Friday?
Posted on 5/22/19 at 12:18 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:No, the announcement of which projects they would do and when was announced last week. It's in the article I posted.
Here's an article from February of 2018 where they were actually announced.
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