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Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:26 pm to
Chef Skinner from Ratatouille. I fully concur with him that rats are fricking gross and I don’t want them in my restaurant, much less in the kitchen. I don’t think he was a bad guy for that.

Ken from the Bee Movie is the only normal motherfricker in the movie, yet Jerry Seinfeld makes it so he seems like the crazy one for losing his girlfriend to a fricking bee.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:26 pm to
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Sauron, an Angelic being, wanted to guide that history and elevate mankind.


Ummm, no. He wanted to corrupt and torture them to such a degree that Eru wouldn’t be able to recognize his creation. The men who served Sauron served him out of fear and hatred, not love. They were Sauron’s slaves like the orcs were.

We can also see Mordor with our own eyes and know that he plans to raze every forest that he can and blot out the sun. Sauron by the time of the Second Age (nevertheless the Third) is not understandable or redeemable and simply must be destroyed.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22973 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:55 pm to
Think outside the box

Op says to defend a villain.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:07 pm to
Ursula from the Little Mermaid

She's essentially a loan shark who outmaneuvers everyone straight up, both Ariel and Triton come across as complete morons and she plays them like a fiddle.

They flat out murder her at the end because they are all mad she outsmarted them.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:10 pm to
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They flat out murder her at the end because they are all mad she outsmarted them.


Ehhh, Eric killed her, so he just came out on top of all this. And for all we know, he was like Gaston and gave Ariel the ending she deserved.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:44 pm to
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Of all the takes in this thread, you win the worst so far.


Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83205 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:47 pm to
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Look at his forces- orcs, considered the scourge of Middle Earth and unworthy to survive. Yet they coexisted fine with the Haradrim and Easterlings in Sauron's armies, and with the Dunlendings in Saruman's.


And we learned in Rjngs of Power that orcs just want a peaceful neighborhood and good job to provide for their families.
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2227 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:49 pm to
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Lotso


Solid post but I think Stinky Pete in TS2 is a better pick here. From a toy's perspective there's really nothing more depressing than to not be played with, ever. Lotso and Jessie were loved once, but Pete never was. Can't really fault the guy for wanting to find some meaning in life and a museum would've given him that. And he wasn't a complete psycho like Lotso either.

Slight aside but I'm actually more fascinated by ancient toys than I am by about 95% of the other shite I typically see in a museum. Those things were probably the whole world to some long-gone child.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:07 am to
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Solid post but I think Stinky Pete in TS2 is a better pick here. From a toy's perspective there's really nothing more depressing than to not be played with, ever. Lotso and Jessie were loved once, but Pete never was. Can't really fault the guy for wanting to find some meaning in life and a museum would've given him that. And he wasn't a complete psycho like Lotso either.


Yeah, I find Stinky Pete to be understandable the way he is and I don’t think he’s evil. Lotso actually is evil and a complete sociopath. He’s completely full of shite, and save for the remote situation, Stinky Pete never actually lied. Every other sentence out of Lotso’s mouth is a lie.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:20 am to
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sportsaddit68

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Darth Vader.

Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12830 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:38 am to
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Probably not leave school and make his entire day about proving a point about a single student, up to and including breaking into his home and terrorizing his sister.

Just give him detention and be done with it or something.


Leaving school was fine. Ferris has skipped 9 days of school and was kind of rubbing it in his face. He went to far with breaking into the house yes.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:43 am to
The Revenant, Tom Hardy/John Fitzgerald. Baw just wanted his money for risking his life for the pelts out in some wild, wild conditions. In a time of crisis, and after the bear attack on Glass, Fitzgerald was the one trying to make the hard decisions to save everyone’s life.

If you use closed captions on Hardy in this film, his character’s position makes way more sense.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 7:55 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94811 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:53 am to
Gul Dukat (DS9) was a patriot and, in fact, was driven insane by his intense patriotism. Most of what he did was well-intentioned to further the interests of Cardassia. Setting aside his mental health issues, there was a genuine person inside all of that. A genuine person who was capable of, and sometimes did, good things.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60812 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:26 am to
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Hans Gruber was doing everything he could to minimize fatalities with the bond heist at Nakatomi Plaza


His plan was to the blow up the roof and kill all the hostages so the authorities would think he was dead

ETA I see this was already addressed
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 8:35 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73834 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:34 am to


dude had to spend his Saturday babysitting shithead kids. Can't blame him for being pissed.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60812 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:44 am to
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Granted the injury stuff with Kilmer is impossible to defend, but just because Kilmer was wrong in that regard doesn't mean Moxon was right about everything else.


Kilmer wasn’t just wrong about the injury stuff, that’s flat out abuse. If Moxon is a problem bench him or kick him off the team but he doesn’t do that because he knows Moxon can help him win so instead he threatens to lie and destroy his future over a football game. He also does not help the black kid get a better scholarship though I would think a player from a high profile school would get more attention by the time the movie is set but still it would look better for Kilmer to have a RB at a D1 program but he doesn’t support or promote him.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 8:58 am
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8055 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:44 am to
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Gul Dukat (DS9) was a patriot and, in fact, was driven insane by his intense patriotism. Most of what he did was well-intentioned to further the interests of Cardassia. Setting aside his mental health issues, there was a genuine person inside all of that. A genuine person who was capable of, and sometimes did, good things.

sounds like a description of half the people on the Politics board (myself included)




Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60812 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:49 am to
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Gul Dukat (DS9) was a patrio


So were the guards at Auschwitz
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8055 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:58 am to
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H-Town Tiger


good grief dude, you're taking this all very seriously.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6453 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:59 am to
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Dean Wormer kind of has a point with the Deltas, although he goes way too far by notifying their local draft boards that they’re all eligible for military service:


I agree with Wormer. I'm not sure about him going too far about the draft boards, though. I kind of wish we would set up a draft to put all the fat lazy people to work.

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