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re: Cult Massacre: One Day in Jonestown - Hulu

Posted on 6/27/24 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by LaLadyinTx
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 4:44 pm to
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Seems like it. But that people then didn’t know what to make of them and just considered them harmless weirdos. Then Manson did his thing and people started freaking out.
As a kid in the 80s I remember there was growing discussions about the characteristics of the more dangerous cults.


I grew up in the 60s and 70s and pretty much everyone in N. La thought cults were full of crazy people. The murders happened in 1969, so yeah, people didn't think cults were harmless in the 70s. But it was more of a time where you stayed out of everybody's business and people were just glad they were all out in California.

I think it was easier for a crazy group to fly underneath the radar until they did something batshit crazy. Without a 24 hr news cycle and the internet, news of things just didn't spread very fast.

It's crazy how long ago it was. There are probably tons of people who use the expression, "drink the koolade" and have no idea where it came from.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 4:48 pm to
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There are probably tons of people who use the expression, "drink the koolade" and have no idea where it came from.


They used Flavor Aid, anyway
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 4:51 pm to
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This is the part that blows my mind. It just defies logic and the basic human will of survival.

Cults literally reprogram your brain. The 2 most basic methods are repetition and over-working you to the point of daily exhaustion. Then add in isolation and you have the cult trifecta.

You live in that for a period of time and weird stuff gets normal. You do it for years and your brain doesn't work normally.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 4:56 pm to
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but cults weren't viewed in the 60s and 70s like they are today. There wasn't as much of a stigma, and it was much more mainstream.

Correct. Until Jonestown. Even after Manson, you had all sorts of cults pop up everywhere.

The late 60s through the 70s were a period of perceived enlightenment and lots of New Age bullshite. Basically this was the quarter life crisis period of the boomer generation, popularized in mainstream culture with hippies that became much more bougie over time.

They never totally went away, though. Some even became mainstream religions, like Scientology.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 5:58 pm to
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Watching and i see a bunch of 1970's white liberal social justice warriors doing what Jim Jones tells them. Nothing has changed acting like they care about black people but hey drink this purple kool-aid.

It’s pretty incredible. It’s almost literally the same exact script.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 6:26 pm to
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They used Flavor Aid, anyway
I felt like there was a significant portion of my life that only myself and a handful of others knew this detail pre-Internet.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 7:55 am to
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I don't think that they were very different than we are today.

Bahahaha!


Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:29 am to
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They used Flavor Aid, anyway


Doesn't matter what they used. Have you ever heard someone use the expression, "Drink the Flavor Aid?"
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:36 am to
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Doesn't matter what they used. Have you ever heard someone use the expression, "Drink the Flavor Aid?"
Is there something wrong making it factually correct? Yeah, easily the adopted expression isn’t the same. We all know it.
Posted by Corso
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:46 am to
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But that’s the crazy thing I pointed out earlier in the thread that I still can’t comprehend. Most of his congregation was black. I cannot believe they all listened to him and killed themselves.


I remember on another special about it that the ones who shot and killed the congressman at the airstrip had their guns on the people, and the ones who refused to drink were held down and injected with it.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:38 am to
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I remember on another special about it that the ones who shot and killed the congressman at the airstrip had their guns on the people, and the ones who refused to drink were held down and injected with it.



They addressed that in this doc as well. Lots of syringes around and evidence of forcing the poison onto/into people.

I still can't believe there is actual audio/video recordings of all of it. You can literally listen to Jim Jones speaking during the final massacre.

Also, didn't realize that someone shot him in the head in the end. I always thought he drank the poison too.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:21 am to
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Doesn't matter what they used. Have you ever heard someone use the expression, "Drink the Flavor Aid?"
Is there something wrong making it factually correct? Yeah, easily the adopted expression isn’t the same. We all know it.


Because what they actually drank wasn't the point I was making. The point was that I'm sure a lot of people who use the expression don't even know about Jonestown. That is definitely where the expression came from.
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