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Countdown: The 165 Greatest American Movies ever made (80-165)
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:15 am
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:15 am
LINK **What say you? Who's over-rated; under-rated?**
"Lists are subjective and almost always widely criticized, argued, and debated — which is the whole point. This is especially true for movie lists. Nevertheless, the top 100 movie list released by the BBC last week is one of the most derided in recent memory. The BBC polled 62 international film critics and asked them to choose the 100 greatest American films of all time. About half the list is little different from the one compiled and updated by the American Film Institute every decade. The other half is full of surprises.
There is no right or wrong answer to listing your favorite films. It’s all subjective. Regardless, it is still surprising to see 62 film critics agree on a number of films most have written off at best as marginal: Spike Lee’s forgettable “25th Hour” (2002) at #94, Michael Cimino’s infamous 1980 debacle “Heaven’s Gate” at #98, Hitchcock’s swing-and-a-miss “Marnie” at #47, etc. You can see the full list here.
The list’s surprising omissions are too many to list.
Rather than argue with the BBC, I decided to do something I have been wanting to for some time: come up with a list of my own choices of the greatest American films ever made. It was impossible, though, for me to corral only 100. My list ended up being 165 titles long, and even that required a painful two day pruning process that left out more than 200 titles that deserve better.
Once all 165 choices have been revealed, I’ll go ahead and release the full accounting of the 400 or so titles originally considered. The crazy thing about these lists is that if I were to go through this process again next week, there would be countless changes.
So what was my criteria?
Well, it wasn’t worrying about what others would think, and it certainly wasn’t based on any other lists.
It was just my gut. If I could only save 165 films from extinction, this would be them."
"Lists are subjective and almost always widely criticized, argued, and debated — which is the whole point. This is especially true for movie lists. Nevertheless, the top 100 movie list released by the BBC last week is one of the most derided in recent memory. The BBC polled 62 international film critics and asked them to choose the 100 greatest American films of all time. About half the list is little different from the one compiled and updated by the American Film Institute every decade. The other half is full of surprises.
There is no right or wrong answer to listing your favorite films. It’s all subjective. Regardless, it is still surprising to see 62 film critics agree on a number of films most have written off at best as marginal: Spike Lee’s forgettable “25th Hour” (2002) at #94, Michael Cimino’s infamous 1980 debacle “Heaven’s Gate” at #98, Hitchcock’s swing-and-a-miss “Marnie” at #47, etc. You can see the full list here.
The list’s surprising omissions are too many to list.
Rather than argue with the BBC, I decided to do something I have been wanting to for some time: come up with a list of my own choices of the greatest American films ever made. It was impossible, though, for me to corral only 100. My list ended up being 165 titles long, and even that required a painful two day pruning process that left out more than 200 titles that deserve better.
Once all 165 choices have been revealed, I’ll go ahead and release the full accounting of the 400 or so titles originally considered. The crazy thing about these lists is that if I were to go through this process again next week, there would be countless changes.
So what was my criteria?
Well, it wasn’t worrying about what others would think, and it certainly wasn’t based on any other lists.
It was just my gut. If I could only save 165 films from extinction, this would be them."
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:33 am to tigerpawl
#162? Should be in top 100 at least.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 8:31 am to HailToTheChiz
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#162? Should be in top 100 at least.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:07 pm to tigerpawl
I've never watched the majority of these. Some of them sound interesting. Any must watches on this list?
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:10 pm to tigerpawl
Jaws is laughably, offensively low
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:14 pm to tigerfan84
Yes tigerfan84 near every movie on that list should be watched at least one time.
Far to many of what should be top 20 movies are ranked over 100 so far.
I have seen them all and most over 5 times, some over 20 times.
Far to many of what should be top 20 movies are ranked over 100 so far.
I have seen them all and most over 5 times, some over 20 times.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 10:13 pm to tigger1
As the author acknowledges these things are very subjective. My two cents is that the following are ranked way too low (i.e. their numbers are too high):
164: To Kill a Mockingbird
143: Star Wars
126: The Gofather Trilogy (WTF?!?)
102: It's a Wonderful Life
98: The Wizard of Oz
IMO, all of those should be in the top 50, most of them are in my personal top 15.
164: To Kill a Mockingbird
143: Star Wars
126: The Gofather Trilogy (WTF?!?)
102: It's a Wonderful Life
98: The Wizard of Oz
IMO, all of those should be in the top 50, most of them are in my personal top 15.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 10:40 pm to tigerpawl
Am I understanding this list correctly, or did they put the Godfather trilogy as a whole at 126 and Citizen Kane at 129? Sorry, but if that's the case, it's pretty easy not to take this list seriously whatsoever.
EDIT: Ok, the Passion of the Christ is at 96. Sweet fricking Christ. This isn't subjective, just simply a troll job.
EDIT: Ok, the Passion of the Christ is at 96. Sweet fricking Christ. This isn't subjective, just simply a troll job.
This post was edited on 8/23/15 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:23 am to tigerpawl
updated
79. Annie Hall
78. The Wild Bunch
77. Jackie Brown
76. Mulholland Drive
75. The Deer Hunter
74. The Targets
73. Murder, My Sweet
72. Vanishing Point
71. The Best Years of Our Lives
70. The Right Stuff
79. Annie Hall
78. The Wild Bunch
77. Jackie Brown
76. Mulholland Drive
75. The Deer Hunter
74. The Targets
73. Murder, My Sweet
72. Vanishing Point
71. The Best Years of Our Lives
70. The Right Stuff
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 1:24 am
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