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re: Casting a black actor as Snape in upcoming Potter series is just awful

Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:38 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:38 am to
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They could come up with any number of reasons why Snape hates harrys dad. It doesnt have to be bullying/racism. Bullying was just the reason they used in the books to explain Snape's hatred for Harry. It was a plot device, not a key part of the story. We dont even see James bully Snape until book 5, Order of the Phoenix.


So now we are changing one of the most essential elements of the books, and one of the the most important revelations and moments in the entire series

And that isn't a big deal

Got you.
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:43 am to
Fun Bunch: "You can't have a scene of James bullying Snape if Snape is black because he'll look racist"

Also Fun Bunch: "You cant take out the scene of James bullying Snape, it's one of the most important scenes in the entire series"

Choose a lane. The casting is done and Snape is black.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 10:48 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:48 am to
You are truly a total clown. I used to think you were serious but now I realize you are just trolling.

Yes, Bullying is an essential element. James/Snape/Lilly's interactions and reasoning for why they do what they do is some of the most important stuff in the entire series.

Making race a factor in it, forcing the creators to change it for a reason that was not essential is insane.

Making Hermione or McGonagle or Quirrel or any number of characters any other race would not have mattered. I fully expected Hermione to be black and would have argued on here that it doesn't effect that character and isn't a big deal.

YOU MADE MY ARGUMENT FOR ME IN THE PREVIOUS POST. They have to change essential elements now to fit the casting.

That's why its a mistake.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 10:49 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:50 am to
If you cant figure out a way to preserve character motivations and story arcs with a black snape then you would be an even worse writer than the hacks in Hollywood.

This isnt some major hurdle, any talented person could find a way to make it work.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:52 am to
You literally made my point for me and didn't even realize it, so I thank you for that.

If you have to change major elements of the entire series (as you argued in your previous post) just to swap races, maybe don't do it

If you have to "come up with ways to make it work", whats the point? Just cast someone else
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:54 am to
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f you cant figure out a way to preserve character motivations and story arcs with a black snape then you would be an even worse writer than the hacks in Hollywood.




Well maybe they should have stuck to the source material and casted appropriately and this would not be an issue. Novel concept, I know.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:55 am to
The casting is done. The writers for the show dont always control casting.

Are you really saying if you were hired to write the show you'd just quit because its impossible now?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:56 am to
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The casting is done.


So what?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:00 am to
So the solution of dont cast black snape window has passed.

Now the job is to make it work. Use your imagination and immense harry potter knowledge and come up with something since you know more than the rest of us.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:04 am to
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in "Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption" , Red is very clearly an Red Headed Irish dude. But can you honestly picture anyone other than Morgan Freeman playing that part? In Norse Mythology, Heimdall is pale skinned with blonde Hair. But Idris Elba is Heimdall and it would be hard to see anyone else in that part.

Agree in both cases, but neither of those roles were ever recreated in a modern production by an actor as loved/reviled as Snape in the present case. That would be tough shoes to fill for any actor, and black washing it only makes it worse.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:08 am to
He doesn’t just bully Snape, he lynches him with Sirius but you’re right, anyone thinking that might have racist implications is just reading into it way too much. That won’t change the perception of James and Sirius’s characters at all.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 11:10 am
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:14 am to
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He doesn’t just bully Snape, he lynches him with Sirius but you’re right,



So we are calling a spell that lifts someone in the air by their ankle a lynching now...Jesus Christ
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:19 am to
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he lynches him with Sirius but you’re right,


imagine this scene with two white characters doing this to a little poor as hell black boy

Just an immensely unforced error
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70798 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:22 am to
Oh it’s not real anymore because reasons. Godfather just told me so. Everything we’ve been told is racist for the last decade is no more so that we can accept the race swap. Once we’ve done that the rules will switch back.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 11:24 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:31 am to
I don't care about race swaps that have no effect on anything

Hermione would have no effect whatsoever on her character

Snape actually has big implications
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:35 am to
There’s just no reason to do this and on top of completely changing the character, motivations, lived experience, state of mind, they cast a guy who used to be a model. I guess you can alter that with prosthetics but it’ll look off putting and again is needless. That’s a lot of trouble just to push an agenda.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:41 am to
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Oh it’s not real anymore because reasons. Godfather just told me so.



Is that what i said, not it isnt you fricking idiot. I have already said that I hate the casting, but calling that spell a lynching is ridiculous, but i expect nothing less from a clown like you.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:51 am to
Cool, you can frick off if you like. Nobody asked you anything
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:53 am to
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they cast a guy who used to be a model. I guess you can alter that with prosthetics but it’ll look off putting and again is needless. That’s a lot of trouble just to push an agenda.

You are great at making mountains out of mole hills. Either that or you are incapable of thinking outside the tiniest box you put yourself when it isnt needed.

Tyrion Lannister is described as the most hideous person in the world to look at and having his nose completely chopped off in the books.

In the show they pick dinklage who isnt hideous and he keeps his nose and people loved the character and it worked fine.

No adaptation is gonna be scene for scene the entire book series unless it is 30+ seasons long. A LOT will be changed. It is the entire challenge of adapting something to a different format.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 11:59 am
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:57 am to
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Nobody asked you anything



That's not how message boards work. You dont like when someone comments on the stupid shite you say, stop saying stupid shite.
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