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re: Captain America
Posted on 5/16/12 at 6:49 am to JombieZombie
Posted on 5/16/12 at 6:49 am to JombieZombie
Thor was far better than Iron Man 2 and Captain America IMO. Having said that I enjoyed CA but it was cheesy and they made him this Aw Shucks guy and made him kind of a loser 
Chris Evans came off dorky and most of the time I see CA as a badass but in the movies he seems more over acted and trying to be too conservative with the "son of a gun"
Cmon toughin him up some it's like watching Leave it to Beaver in Caps suit
Chris Evans came off dorky and most of the time I see CA as a badass but in the movies he seems more over acted and trying to be too conservative with the "son of a gun" Cmon toughin him up some it's like watching Leave it to Beaver in Caps suit
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:35 am to Roaad
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Wow.
Not to be contrary, but I thought it was among the best superhero movies I have seen.
So much work developing his humanity.
Solid working of Cap, and 100% true to the comic book.
Absolutely loved it.
This. I find it was actually a little too short. Showing maybe one full assault would have been a nice touch.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:40 am to UnluckyTiger
It was a little slow in the middle while Cap was doing his song and dance routine, but other than that, I thoight it was pretty solid.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:43 am to UnluckyTiger
Watched it in two separate sittings(also getting a little background to the Avengers) and holy shite it was awful. Id probably rank it the worst superhero movie I've seen.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:47 am to BuckeyeFan87
I saw CA right before the avengers and then went and watched Thor after the Avenggers.
To me Thor was much much worse than CA. Which could just be a testament to how good the Avengers was.
To me Thor was much much worse than CA. Which could just be a testament to how good the Avengers was.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:36 am to JB Bama
I knew going in there was going to be a high cheese factor for Captain America, so that didn't bother me at all. I thought the movie fit the character well, he is a hokey character.
If you want to see an interesting juxtaposition of the way WW2 is portrayed in comic book movies, watch CA and X-Men First Class back to back.
If you want to see an interesting juxtaposition of the way WW2 is portrayed in comic book movies, watch CA and X-Men First Class back to back.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:13 am to Freauxzen
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why don't you enlighten us from your vast knowledge of film, comic books and art to the weakness of the film??
I'm not going to spend 10 minutes justifying to you on some message board why I thought a movie was terrible. Like many have said, a movie being campy is one thing, but this one was cheesy, corny, stupid, etc. as well. How about the fact that he busts into the Nazi war factory under the dark of night, disguised in all black so he's not unveiled as an American...but sports his shiny red, white and blue shield on his back the whole time!
Brilliant spy work! Ultimately, the CA character is simply too hokey for my liking compared to the likes of X-Men, Batman, Iron Man, etc.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:47 am to Jwodie
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I'm not going to spend 10 minutes justifying to you on some message board why I thought a movie was terrible.
Don't act so offended when you post something like this:
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The fanboys will support it til the end, but this movie really, really sucked.
Marginalizing those who actually like the movie. There's a better way of discourse. It's also a very false statement, and you make it as fact.
Fact is: The movie doesn't suck, you just don't connect with it.
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Like many have said, a movie being campy is one thing, but this one was cheesy, corny, stupid, etc. as well.
To each his own, but yes it did take a lighter tone than any other Avengers/Comic movie.
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How about the fact that he busts into the Nazi war factory under the dark of night, disguised in all black so he's not unveiled as an American...but sports his shiny red, white and blue shield on his back the whole time! Brilliant spy work!
How about the fact that EVERY SINGLE ACTION MOVIE ever has something ridiculous about it just to keep the action going. Try any film where the bad guys couldn't hit the broad side of barn with a pistol, yet the main character can pick them off 50 yards away without pausing to aim?
You could find scenes like this in any film.
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Ultimately, the CA character is simply too hokey for my liking compared to the likes of X-Men, Batman, Iron Man, etc.
Exactly. Rather than attack those who like the film, it's better to say something like that.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 10:48 am
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:53 am to Jwodie
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Id probably rank it the worst superhero movie I've seen.
I mean that's a qualifier right there. What have you seen?
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Like many have said, a movie being campy is one thing, but this one was cheesy, corny, stupid, etc. as well.
I have no problem with you not liking the movie, but this statement is how I expect a fifth grader to describe something he doesn't like. synonym after synonym, not really explaining his displeasure.
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How about the fact that he busts into the Nazi war factory under the dark of night, disguised in all black so he's not unveiled as an American...but sports his shiny red, white and blue shield on his back the whole time!
True, that could be seen as plot hole. Having said that, any superhero not dressed in all black set themselves up for a disadvantage. The shield is his weapon, so I think you can't really argue that point in all fairness.
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Ultimately, the CA character is simply too hokey for my liking compared to the likes of X-Men, Batman, Iron Man, etc.
On the surface that is 100% true, but Rogers is actually as complex a guy as any(which the CA displayed somewhat,Avengers had to edit out) he is "hokey" because he chooses to do the right thing. I expect the second one to dive more into his psyche, but we'll see. The anti-hero (which,btw,only Wolverine would fall in that category) is kind of played out, imo. But you are going to like what you like and I get that. I just think you are unfamiliar with Cap.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:57 am to BuckeyeFan87
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Id probably rank it the worst superhero movie I've seen.
So you never saw Ghost Rider?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:57 am to Sheep
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So you never saw Ghost Rider?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:04 am to Sheep
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So you never saw Ghost Rider?
or Electra
or FF1
or FF2
or Punisher
or Punisher: War Zone?
or Wanted
or X-Men 3
or Batman and Robin
or Superman Returns
?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:46 am to RonBurgundy
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The anti-hero (which,btw,only Wolverine would fall in that category) is kind of played out, imo. But you are going to like what you like and I get that. I just think you are unfamiliar with Cap.
I don't see how the anti-hero is played out when only, per you, Wolverine falls into that category. Wolvie, BTW, is my favorite comic character and I followed his comics religiously as a kid. I think his origin story has more potential than any other given his mysterious military background, etc. but that's a topic on its own. His movie was decent but they could do so much more, even a trilogy like Nolan's Batman work.
Bottom line, CA is too hokey for me. I don't think his character or background translates very well to modern times. It's just not very interesting to me.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:48 am to Jwodie
I don't think Wolverine falls into the category of anti hero.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:52 am to Tactical1
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I don't think Wolverine falls into the category of anti hero.
Well, in many ways he was. I.e., always shunning Prof. X's requests that he join the X-Men, worrying about himself and his own issues (and background) over others, being anti-social and the outcast, delving into the seedy nightlife and a cigar-smoking booze hound (
), etc. He's in essence the polar opposite of CA. Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:59 am to Jwodie
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I don't see how the anti-hero is played out when only, per you, Wolverine falls into that category.
True, I should have made that more clear. Batman and Iron Man are lumped into anti-hero group by the general masses.
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Wolvie, BTW, is my favorite comic character and I followed his comics religiously as a kid. I think his origin story has more potential than any other given his mysterious military background, etc
Well there you go. You are an X-Men guy, Cap is an Avenger and on top of that, the one that closely resembles Wolvie's foil, Cyclops. This is the root issue. Secondly, frick the Wolvie origin story. Never shouldve been done, IMO.
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Bottom line, CA is too hokey for me.
Again, you are just not familiar enough with Cap.Cap isn't hokey, he just understands the importance of symbolism, leadership and standing for something. He translates very well to modern times. Hell, our elected President sold the message of hope-which is what Cap is all about.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:01 pm to Tactical1
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I don't think Wolverine falls into the category of anti hero.
Per Wiki
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Wolverine was typical of the many tough, anti-authority, antiheroes that emerged in American popular culture after the Vietnam War;[3] his willingness to use deadly force and his brooding nature became standard characteristics for comic book anti-heroes by the end of the 1980s.[4]
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:01 pm to RonBurgundy
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Secondly, frick the Wolvie origin story. Never shouldve been done, IMO.
/credibility. quote:
e translates very well to modern times. Hell, our elected President sold the message of hope-which is what Cap is all about.
Christ almighty you really went there with your CA support? I'm out of this thread.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:03 pm to Jwodie
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Wolvie, BTW, is my favorite comic character and I followed his comics religiously as a kid.
That pretty much explains it.
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His movie was decent but they could do so much more, even a trilogy like Nolan's Batman work.
So wait, Cap is terrible, but their total butchering of Wolverine, Gambit's, Deadpool's, etc. story is decent? Huh? That makes no sense.
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I don't think his character or background translates very well to modern times. It's just not very interesting to me.
Eh, the world needs a little more Cap and a little less Wolverine.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:03 pm to RonBurgundy
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Secondly, frick the Wolvie origin story. Never shouldve been done, IMO.
Here here. So unnecessary. Thankfully it was easily forgotten and hasn't affected the character much.
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