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re: Breaking Bad Season 5 Episode 8 "Gliding Over All"
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:15 pm to tiger2012
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:15 pm to tiger2012
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The climax of this show has to get back to walt and jessie.
I agree. That had to be a false ending for them.
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I think jessie kills walt at the end.
How pissed will everyone be if it ends just like Season 3?
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:24 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
I think Walt uses the ricin on Hank.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:31 pm to Sinister1
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I think Walt uses the ricin on Hank.
Nah, it's too slow a poison. Hank would have plenty of time to tell Gomey.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:56 pm to DrSteveBrule
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GB was written in the book. Hank knows everything now
Its not like it said Gail Bedecker. It said GB.
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Walt is an ex-Chemistry teacher (exactly the mold they were looking for) who quit his job and suddenly started playing Blackjack and made hundreds of thousands of dollars. Extremely fishy
It would take way more that fishy extremely circumstantial evidence to believe that your chemistry teaching, father of two, brother in law is a meth cooking mastermind. Seems super unrealistic. Then again, hanks hunches have been incredibly, unrealistically accurate so far haha.
This post was edited on 9/3/12 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:59 pm to Cam71090
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Its not like it said Gail Boetticher. It said GB.
In the same exact handwriting as the lab notes and quoting What Whitman just like the lab notes.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:59 pm to Cam71090
They've shown Hank has gone with his hunches before and this way more of a hunch than Fringe.
Pretty sure the flashback was the director's way of telling us that Hank remembered the wording/signature very vividly. No way does he completely ignore this and I seriously doubt that he would bring it up to Walter before doing more investigating.
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Its not like it said Gail Bedecker. It said GB.
Pretty sure the flashback was the director's way of telling us that Hank remembered the wording/signature very vividly. No way does he completely ignore this and I seriously doubt that he would bring it up to Walter before doing more investigating.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:15 pm to Cam71090
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Its not like it said Gail Bedecker. It said GB.
I thought it was pretty clear-cut:
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:16 pm to THRILLHO
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The car and Mike's body were taken care of. DEA will most likely think Mike pulled off the killings and disappeared.
Thats the thing. if they assume that mike did the killings, then they will know that the money is still flowing as mike has no reason to kill them all if they are being paid off. Remember tat mike was killed the SAME day that the lawyer was caught in the bank, and it is very believable that mike would not have known that the cops were after him at the park had walt not warned him.
With mike disappearing and leaving his granddaughter at the park, and the other people in jail being killed within a week, it is more believable that mike was killed along with those people than it would be that mike did the killing.
Considering how much manpower hank has invested and how many gut instincts that he has had that came true, hank will not let something slip through again. the only remaining people known to hank are lydia, which will show up clean if walt is being honest about getting out of the game, and jesse as the only person who was known to have the blue meth, and his car and belongings were found with tuco out in the desert. as long as jesse's money is intact and doesnt get siezed, there is nothing for hank to go on no matter how much is known.
someone will have to break, or frick up. that person will be todd.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:24 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
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Nah, it's too slow a poison. Hank would have plenty of time to tell Gomey.
would never tell gomey. he would tell marie first. hank might have good instincts, but hes still the same idiot that left his service revolver in the truck to go beat up some bar thugs, and had a panic attack about taking the lead, and not knowing spanish.and while he crawled back to the car, his partners died "hola DEA!" but he came out looking great. for every hunch hes had correct, he has goofed himself into an equally embarrassing situation.
something this close to home will not be told to gomey first.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:44 pm to TigerCub
spent the last 3 weeks watching the series from start to finish
just finished this episode 5 minutes ago
WOW
I fricking LOVE this show
just finished this episode 5 minutes ago
WOW
I fricking LOVE this show
Posted on 9/3/12 at 8:27 pm to weadjust
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Member since Aug 2012
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The Walt Whitman poem book was given to Walter White as a gift from his ex-partner, Gale Boetticher, who had an almost fan-like obsession with him. Gale was also a fan of Walt Whitman poems, and coincidentally (or maybe not so coincidentally, as this is a TV show), Walter White and Walt Whitman happen to share initials.
After Gale was killed, Hank was given his file to look over in an attempt to figure out if Gale was the mastermind, Heisenberg. Hank found a dedication to a W.W. in the lab notebook. Hank read this and pondered who this was in a conversation to Walt - "Woodrow Wilson? Willy Wonka?... Walter White?", he added jokingly, to which Walt replied, in a sarcastic tone, "You got me!".
Fast forward to today. Hank is in the bathroom and looks for something to read while he shits. He finds the Walt Whitman poem book (that Gale gave to Walt, which he stupidly put in the bathroom). On the front page, Hank finds a dedication from a person named G. B., which, along with the content of the dedication and the handwriting, Hank recognizes as being Gale Boetticher. This dedication is to "*another * W.W.". This triggers the conversation Hank had with Walt and especially the quote "You got me!" leading Hank to make the connection that Walt is Heisenberg!
You must also remember what Hank knows about this Heisenberg. From the fake Badger drug bust that Saul organized as one of his first jobs with Walt and Jesse, Hank was told that Badger's supplier, Heisenberg, was an old bald man, in his 50s, average height and weight. Obviously, this profile has to be in the back of Hank's head the whole time.
Thanks for the breakdown, Vince
Posted on 9/3/12 at 8:39 pm to Vinny V
I know it's been established but Lydia is Cougtastic
Posted on 9/3/12 at 9:32 pm to Haplochrom
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hank might have good instincts, but hes still the same idiot that left his service revolver in the truck to go beat up some bar thugs, and had a panic attack about taking the lead, and not knowing spanish.and while he crawled back to the car
And remember too, if you've watched the minisodes, that Hank got a BJ from a tranny the night before his wedding.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 9:36 pm to Haplochrom
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something this close to home will not be told to gomey first.
No way that Walter poisons Hank...it is so anticlimactic IMO.
And you can't tell me if Hank has any sort of suspicion that he is being poisoned by the one "Monster" that he is trying to catch, that he wouldn't let anyone important know.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 11:13 pm to HerbEaverstinks
Hank is really screwed now! Hank knows Walt is Heisenberg but Hank cannot expose Walt, or Hank will go to jail and be removed from his post just as easily he lucked into his new job.
Hank has been promoted by accident based on someone else's actions/mistakes (Walt blowing up Gus Fring and destroying the lab) and he stumbles across the solution to his obsession (on the pot) and cannot tell anyone!
More important, even though Hank figured out the whole network while he was recovering from the cartel attack, he has always been one step behind on the trail of the blue meth. Hank has not done anything substantial to actually impede Heisenberg or Gus Fring at any point and was only validated once Walt blew up Gus Fring and destroyed the lab.
If Hank exposes Walt, they will both be implicated, as it would look really suspicious if Hank's wife's brother in law turns out to be Heisenberg, the kingpin the DEA has never been able to identify or capture for so long. Hank's boss has already been disgraced and fired for missing the meth kingpin right under his nose, drinking wine at his house, cooking Chilean Sea Bass.
Walt's dirty 'blue meth' money proceeds also paid for Hank's extended recovery, after the DEA denied to pay for his care. Hank's pointing the finger at Fring will now seem like he is protecting Walt if Walt is exposed as Heisenberg.
I predict Heisenberg will go to Hank and tell Hank they will have to work together to wrap up the whole thing. Heisenberg and Hank will blame it all on a combination of Jesse, Mike, Madrigal and/or the Phoenix crew, allowing Hank to 'discover' everything shortly after Walt dies from cancer. Hank and Skyler will be the only ones left alive who know the truth.
Walt can make Hank look like the conquering hero, AGAIN, and will leave his family with a father figure DEA hero, and a big pile of money, after Walt dies.
Edit: After writing this, Hank is actually the big winner and not screwed at all. Another big promotion after his next big bust of Heisenberg, revered by the community and a pile of cash.
Hank has been promoted by accident based on someone else's actions/mistakes (Walt blowing up Gus Fring and destroying the lab) and he stumbles across the solution to his obsession (on the pot) and cannot tell anyone!
More important, even though Hank figured out the whole network while he was recovering from the cartel attack, he has always been one step behind on the trail of the blue meth. Hank has not done anything substantial to actually impede Heisenberg or Gus Fring at any point and was only validated once Walt blew up Gus Fring and destroyed the lab.
If Hank exposes Walt, they will both be implicated, as it would look really suspicious if Hank's wife's brother in law turns out to be Heisenberg, the kingpin the DEA has never been able to identify or capture for so long. Hank's boss has already been disgraced and fired for missing the meth kingpin right under his nose, drinking wine at his house, cooking Chilean Sea Bass.
Walt's dirty 'blue meth' money proceeds also paid for Hank's extended recovery, after the DEA denied to pay for his care. Hank's pointing the finger at Fring will now seem like he is protecting Walt if Walt is exposed as Heisenberg.
I predict Heisenberg will go to Hank and tell Hank they will have to work together to wrap up the whole thing. Heisenberg and Hank will blame it all on a combination of Jesse, Mike, Madrigal and/or the Phoenix crew, allowing Hank to 'discover' everything shortly after Walt dies from cancer. Hank and Skyler will be the only ones left alive who know the truth.
Walt can make Hank look like the conquering hero, AGAIN, and will leave his family with a father figure DEA hero, and a big pile of money, after Walt dies.
Edit: After writing this, Hank is actually the big winner and not screwed at all. Another big promotion after his next big bust of Heisenberg, revered by the community and a pile of cash.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 11:28 pm to HeadChange
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Thanks for the breakdown, Vince
One other thing I noticed, or think I did, was Walt's intial conversation with Lydia to get the names played out alot like when Mike met Lydia and she had the list. Walt even sounded like Mike talking. I plan to go back and rewatch both scenes tomorrow so I can get a better comparison.
It's like Walt has become a culmination of everyone he has had dealings with the past. He picks up character trails from each with the result being the evolving Heisenberg persona.
Meh...maybe its just late and I'm imagining things.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 11:30 pm to taylork37
I don't know, I've kinda thought that skylar or hank might be the ones Walt uses the poison on for awhile. I could see either being a very powerful scene.
But, I try to avoid making predictions because its nearly impossible to figure out which way VG is going to go with the story.
But, I try to avoid making predictions because its nearly impossible to figure out which way VG is going to go with the story.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 1:02 am to Cam71090
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GB was written in the book. Hank knows everything now
Its not like it said Gail Bedecker. It said GB.
What was Gretchen's last name before she married Elliot? Maybe he'll play it off by saying it's from her? They used to be together, were lab partners...
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