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re: Breaking Bad S5E16 9/29 "Felina" IT's ALL OVER

Posted on 9/30/13 at 8:49 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 8:49 am to
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I see Jesse going to work as a woodworker and leaving the drug world behind.


That's clearly the next series - "Scared Straight: The Jesse Pinkman Story"

Posted by stout
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 8:53 am to
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Shot was in the liver.

Kill shot.


Plus Walt was already weak as shite from the cancer
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:00 am to
So many feels in this episode.

-Skylar breaking down when Walt confirms Hank is dead
-Walt getting to see and touch Holly one more time
-Walt only being able to see his son from a distance
-Walt and Jesse's silent goodbye

The beginning of the episode was money. The Schwartz's were not prevalent during the show, but they were undoubtedly a huge influence on the man Walt became. Their inclusion was great not only to give Walt closure, but because it gave us a last moment of humor (something that was almost non-existent during the past season).
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:05 am to
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-Walt only being able to see his son from a distance

That got to me.

I loved the line, "Elliott, if that's the direction you wanna take it, you're gonna need a bigger knife." He's weak and dying and still managed to intimidate them.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:11 am to
He felina was not meth like many people were saying.

His felina was his pride that was his downfall and also his redemption
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:12 am to
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I loved the line, "Elliott, if that's the direction you wanna take it, you're gonna need a bigger knife." He's weak and dying and still managed to intimidate them.



It was perfect, Walt never physical intimated a fly but was always two steps a head. Team Walt , team hank


quote:

He felina was not meth like many people were saying.



Id say it was the game
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 9:13 am
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:14 am to
So who thinks that Walt's original plan was to kill all of the Nazi's and Jesse? I liked what Kimmel brought up in Talking Bad. It seemed like Vince said he agreed, that Walt may have planned to Kill Jesse because he thought Jack and Jesse were "partners", but when he saw the condition Jesse was in, he felt sorry for him and had a change of heart.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:16 am to
Yeah I think he didn't know Jesse was being held captive. He decided to save him once he realized what they were doing to him.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:19 am to
quote:

He felina was not meth like many people were saying.

His felina was his pride that was his downfall and also his redemption


Well, like many things in life, it is and it isn't the meth.

It is the meth - it is the only thing he was great at - in fact, he was the best ever at making it.

So, it is more than the meth - he wasn't an addict to the stuff - but it was his pride, in himself, at being the best meth cook ever - like the Jerry Rice or Wayne Gretzky of meth. The meth itself (which is why it needed the literary device of being the unique color blue), and, by extension all the money he made doing it (even though, by and large, pointless, over and above the $9 million he transferred to the kids, via GM) validated his worth.

So, his Felina is the meth (he didn't die in Skyler's arms, in his old home, or on a pile of money - he died in a meth lab, with a batch of Jesse's version of Blue Sky on the way), but it is more than the meth. It is what the meth represents.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:30 am to
I think that's well said. His pride was the root cause of everything though. He could have stopped making meth and settled down, but his ego eventually got the best of him.

He wasn't addicted to meth, he was addicted to being prideful.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:34 am to
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Walt may have planned to Kill Jesse because he thought Jack and Jesse were "partners", but when he saw the condition Jesse was in, he felt sorry for him and had a change of heart.


totally agree. He thought it was graymatter all over again. But when he saw it wasnt he saved Jesse.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:36 am to
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He wasn't addicted to meth, he was addicted to being prideful.


Him doing meth at the end of the how wouldve cheapened the entire show and the evolution of Walt.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:36 am to
I think he was addicted to the success, power and "respect" that he got from it. He was the best ever and he loved it. He got to taste the success that he never could with GM.
Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:41 am to
Awesome episode.

My favorite part is at the end where he's talking to Lydia and telling her that she's f'd and going to die.
Then he looks at Jesse and just nods as if to say, everything is covered and your truly free.

Of course, it was fitting that he's walking through the Meth lab about to die and smiling as if to say it was all worth it.
Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:47 am to
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Of course, it was fitting that he's walking through the Meth lab about to die and smiling as if to say it was all worth it.

Yeah, he still had a sense of pride in his creation and also turning a failed chemistry student into a master cook
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:49 am to
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So who thinks that Walt's original plan was to kill all of the Nazi's and Jesse?


thought it was kinda obvious
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:55 am to
Himself too
Posted by tygeray
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:08 am to
VG interview

VG discusses a few things such a Walt planning on killing Jesse.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:11 am to
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turning a failed chemistry student into a master cook


And also regret for getting him involved in all of this.
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:20 am to
The only question I still want answered is why did Walt drop everything and leave Gretchen?
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