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re: Breaking Bad S5E15 9/22 "Granite State"
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:32 am to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:32 am to Rickety Cricket
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I feel like he will have to somehow find Lydia and use her to get to them.
pretty sure Lydia would tip them off as well, as Walt would be better off dead now that Jesse is making the meth
having Walt around is too much risk
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:33 am to Mr. Allman
No telling what the hell is going to happen, but I think this might be a scenario.
Not sure if Walt is going back to save or kill Jesse, since the Nazi's backed out of their agreement with Walt...making him even more upset.
I do think in some way Walt is going to kill Lydia, and this will cause Todd to kill Walt in the end.
Not sure if Walt is going back to save or kill Jesse, since the Nazi's backed out of their agreement with Walt...making him even more upset.
I do think in some way Walt is going to kill Lydia, and this will cause Todd to kill Walt in the end.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:34 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Weren't there some meth lab fires or something talked about
When Lydia was visiting the Declon(sp) Lab she suggested they bring in Todd.The Werewolf looking guy,as Uncle Jack referred to him,said that he didn't trust Todd and that Todd has started a fire in the lab.
That was right before Uncle Jack and his crew killed them all.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:34 am to Ace Midnight
Who's Rachel?
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:37 am to The_Joker
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Who's Rachel?
Crap, what did I say, Rachel?
I meant Jane.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:38 am to The_Joker
Wonder where Walt goes after he walks away from the bar. He obviously doesn't go back to the cabin as that would probably be too risky and it's not like it would have taken the cops a long time to get to the bar
Guess he just takes a bus back across country?
Guess he just takes a bus back across country?
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:40 am to The_Joker
I loved the episode, and Todd shooting the Brock's mom was definitely an oh shite moment.
I cannot wait for the finale. I don't think Walt will do anything to harm Grey Matter or try and take them down, there's too much else going on that he needs to take care of that is more important, especially with it being the last episode.
I cannot wait for the finale. I don't think Walt will do anything to harm Grey Matter or try and take them down, there's too much else going on that he needs to take care of that is more important, especially with it being the last episode.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:41 am to Gnar Cat21
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Wonder where Walt goes after he walks away from the bar. He obviously doesn't go back to the cabin as that would probably be too risky and it's not like it would have taken the cops a long time to get to the bar
His barrel of money is back at the cabin. We don't see it in the car with the M-60, but he may have converted it to duffel bags or rented another storage facility somewhere in route.
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Guess he just takes a bus back across country?
We know he is in an old car with NH plates when he buys the machinegun and drives that old car up to his house in NM.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 9:43 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:41 am to Gnar Cat21
Hes got a 100k on him he probably buys a used ride.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:42 am to tdog
Walt is obviously going back to spank the shite out of Jr. for talking back!
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:43 am to Ace Midnight
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His barrel of money is back at the cabin. We don't see it in the car with the M-60, but he may have converted it to duffel bags or rented another storage facility somewhere in route.
Eh I think he lost it. He never planned to go anywhere and you see him grab money from the barrel right before going to make the call the Walt j
Not that it really matters I was just thinking how now he has even less money. He'll probably get the rest of his money back and give it to Jessie or something as others have said
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 9:45 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:45 am to HumbleNinja
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I don't think Walt will do anything to harm Grey Matter or try and take them down, there's too much else going on that he needs to take care of that is more important, especially with it being the last episode.
So you don't think the series is going to resolve the very thing that created Heisenberg? Without GM, this whole story never happens. Something is happening to GM.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:46 am to Gnar Cat21
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He never planned to go anywhere and you see him grab money from the barrel right before going to make the call the Walt jr
He was going to mail that money to the family. I cannot see him leaving that money behind. Unless his ID guy figures out he left the cabin and goes and gets it - nobody else even knows it is out there. DEA might be able to figure it out and backtrack, but the whole point of the place is that it is very remote.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:47 am to LNCHBOX
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So you don't think the series is going to resolve the very thing that created Heisenberg?
GM is the thing that created Heisenberg?
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:48 am to Me4Heisman
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I'm guessingr the machine gun will be used in an unconventional way. Maybe a plant to frame someone.
Dumb side Q: why did Saul still feel the need to go on the lam?
1. walt knows jesse is alive. he's smart enough to realize the nazis are cooking (all that methylamine and lydia's visit to car wash) and to coerce jesse into doing it; the tv interview and finally when he hears about jesse's gf (if he hasnt already).
2. saul is running because jesse spilled the beans and he knows huel is in custody (or missing anyway) so of course he's outta there. saul has no idea how many DEA agents heard jesse's testimony
3. walt saw the firepower the nazis had when they killed hank. don't read too much into that, he's using the machine gun to go after the nazis.
4. he won't get his money back. the nazis are too smart to leave it out in the warehouse or somehwere obvious. they will have that money under lock by now.
5. he will never reconcile with jesse. about the most he'll do is kill him quickly but after the jane comment, he might not even do that.
6. myth = PLAUSIBLE that jesse finds a way to go out with a bang and take todd with him (the only nazi it seems that is interested enough to go into the meth lab). jesse kills todd (and himself) and hopefully it happens with a classic 'eat this blue meth BITCH!'
thats all i got.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 9:50 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:49 am to Salmon
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GM is the thing that created Heisenberg?
GM is the reason he didn't have money
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:50 am to CAD703X
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walt knows jesse is alive
How?
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:50 am to ffhouston
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As an avid poker player,I loved the poetic symbolism of Walt's decision not to cut the cards. In poker, whether or not a player cuts cards is a very complicated tell. A lot of poker players believe that "only a fool doesn't cut cards," as it means the player is 100% trusting that the dealer has not cheated. It is a tell because it leads one to believe that the player has the classic character trait of doing the one thing someone should never do in a poker game; trust the people who only are there to take what is yours.
The fact that a man will trust that you are not cheating when you are dealing may reveal that you are willing to believe that he is also not lying about the strength of his hand. This can ultimately cripple you later in life. Some players do not subscribe to this theory at all. Some players believe that refusing to cut cards is a tell because it speaks to your pride and your ego. The fact that you know that ultimately this could be the hand that wipes you clean; and if it is, you'll be stuck with the mental anguish of "Things would've been different if I had just cut the cards in a different place...or if I hadn't cut the cards at all."
I think the 2nd explanation describes Walt's decision more accurately. Walt didn't cut the cards because even though his life is already completely in shambles, his ego can't take the suggestion that perhaps it was his fault. Instead he'd rather just blame the cards as they lie.
If anything symbolic was intended, I think it has more to do with the context of what they were discussing at the time, i.e. Walt asking him to get the cash to his family, to which the dude asks, would you believe me if I said I would. Walt never answered that question, but his actions demonstrated his answer.
Or it could be that he just doesn't give a shite about the game or whether he wins or loses and was desparate for company...most likely scenario.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:52 am to Salmon
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walt knows jesse is alive
How?
he's too smart not to connect the dots (see my comment above)
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:53 am to Putty
Yea I don't really think there was anything symbolic about his answer to cutting the cards. I think that scene was just meant to show how low and lonely Walt has become.
I could be wrong but I think sometimes the scenes are meant to just be taken at face value
I could be wrong but I think sometimes the scenes are meant to just be taken at face value
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