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re: Breaking Bad S5E14 9/15 "Ozymandias"

Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:41 pm to
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Yeah, but when Skylar confronted him at first and asked if he killed Hank she knew he was hiding something and that's what caused her to grab the knife.


True, but she also sat across the table and watched Walt hand Hank the dvd that could destroy his career. Hank's death was the trigger obviously, but feeling as if Walt was losing and on the run playing a big role IMO.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:42 pm to
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Just pointing this out, Walt never confessed to killing Hank, he told them they'd never see him again. Granted, for his family and the police, that means he killed them, but he never said he did.


Not technically, but he did say something along the lines of Hank crossing him right? Implying that he took care of him.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:45 pm to
Anybody else think that maybe we're all really missing the point? Maybe Vince is just trying to tell a simple story about a man getting better at moving barrels.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:47 pm to
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career. Hank's death was the trigger obviously, but feeling as if Walt was losing and on the run playing a big role IMO.


I don't see it that way. She already knew he lost, she had accepted it was over, and told her son. She didn't grab the knife because Walt was on the run, she grabbed the knife because Walt ruined lives that day.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:51 pm to
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She didn't grab the knife because Walt was on the run, she grabbed the knife because Walt ruined lives that day.



Walt has ruined plenty of lives. What's one more?
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:53 pm to
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What's one more?


A lot when it's your brother in law. She was willing to go along with Walt because he was out of the Meth business and it was about making the family work. Well Walt's actions were responsible for destroying the family in the desert.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:57 pm to
Right, but "what's one more" is a direct quote from Skyler. She was fine playing Godfather until it affected her. I agree with your sentiment, Walt has come full circle and has forsaken his family for power, but Skyler is just as flawed in different ways.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:04 pm to
What did the dog crossing the road at the end mean? I bet VG threw that in just to troll us.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:09 pm to
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Right, but "what's one more" is a direct quote from Skyler. She was fine playing Godfather until it affected her. I agree with your sentiment, Walt has come full circle and has forsaken his family for power, but Skyler is just as flawed in different ways.


Right but Walt is the same way. He was more than willing to have Jesse killed, but when Hank's life was threatened he turned into a blubbering fool willing to give up 80 million bucks to save him.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:09 pm to
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What did the dog crossing the road at the end mean? I bet VG threw that in just to troll us.


Lone wolf.

Rabid dog.

Every dog has its day. The dog being Jesse.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 1:10 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18245 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:10 pm to
Mangy old dog no one wants, thinks he's in control and got it made but really just a stray, wandering off into the sunset.

Or just a troll.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5428 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:11 pm to
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but when Hank's life was threatened he turned into a blubbering fool willing to give up 80 million bucks to save him.


That just made me think, what if the NN's took the money and let Hank walk?

Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50399 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:11 pm to
I don't understand why everyone thinks Walt is a villain. He's never hurt anyone that didn't have it coming to them outside of MAYBE Brock, whom he made a bit sickly for the greater good. He made it out fine anyway (just like Walt knew he would) and plus he's kind of a prick to guests in his home so it's not like he's completely innocent.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:12 pm to
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He was more than willing to have Jesse killed, but when Hank's life was threatened he turned into a blubbering fool willing to give up 80 million bucks to save him.


Walt has never wanted Hank dead, "he's family" and Jesse gave him no choice.
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
19515 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:16 pm to
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plus he's kind of a prick to guests in his home so it's not like he's completely innocent.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93280 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:24 pm to
my wife flipped out when walt grabbed holly.

before skylar was halfway out of the house she was like JUMP IN THE frickING BED OF THE TRUCK

she was actually pissed when skylar let him take off with the baby
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14067 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:29 pm to
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So who is still team walt?

Me
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:33 pm to
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Well Walt's actions were responsible for destroying the family in the desert.


And handing over that tape they made to the DEA wouldn't have destroyed Hank and Marie's lives? Granted it's not death, but Hank would have still been destroyed. She went along with that just fine.
Posted by Stonehog
Platinum Rewards Club
Member since Aug 2011
34145 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:33 pm to
Me too, I hope Walt gets away with it.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93280 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:35 pm to
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And handing over that tape they made to the DEA wouldn't have destroyed Hank and Marie's lives?

no.

that was never the objective.

control of hank was the objective. this was walt's way of putting a leash on him so he could continue to do what he wants.
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