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re: Breaking Bad S5E14 9/15 "Ozymandias"
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:05 am to Rohan2Reed
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:05 am to Rohan2Reed
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Is there any way Lydia survives this series?
Zero. Seems pretty clear Walt's going to kill all of his old associates... except maybe Saul.
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:05 am to Ziggy
So did Walt kidnap Holly for the sole purpose of getting the police to the house to call them and get Skylar off the hook with his speech that fully implicated him and not her?
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:05 am to Smoke7024
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But we know they aren't at the house when Walt returns and given the state that Skylar lasts sees Walt in, I doubt she wants to go to Marie's without police protection there.
Skyler knew what Walt was doing when he called.
Eh. I'm on the fence about that. It would seem a little suspicious of her to refuse police protection in that kind of situation.
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You also have to factor in Jesse telling the NNs about the tape he made and them coming after the tape and Marie. That would force Skylar's hand as well.
Pretty sure she doesn't know about any of this.
That's even more of a reason for her hand to be forced. She's completely unaware of their existence. Let's say she takes up the offer to leave her home and go stay with Marie. Marie is going through some shite too so Sky is going to want to comfort her bitch of a sister because that's just what Sky does and Flynn needs his breakfast.
So the NNs are getting Jesse to cook for them and are beating the hell out of him too to get information out of him as well. Let's assume he tells them about the tape. Where do you think they go next? Mind you, they have no idea about the whole situation with Walt blowing up at home.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:06 am to Unknown_Poster
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Zero. Seems pretty clear Walt's going to kill all of his old associates... except maybe Saul.
One of the first 2 scenes of the next episode is more than likely going to be the conversation between Walt and Saul on his disappearance.
The next episode preview pretty much confirmed it.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:06 am to Stonehog
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If you give a mouse a cookie, he's gonna want to make more meth.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:07 am to The_Joker
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So did Walt kidnap Holly for the sole purpose of getting the police to the house to call them, and get Skylar off the hook with his speech that fully implicated him and not her?
That was my thought exactly.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:07 am to Stonehog
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If you give a mouse a cookie, he's gonna want to make more meth.
Also I have read a lot of reports that real world Neo Nazi groups use meth to fund their ideological wars against the Cartels.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:08 am to The_Joker
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So did Walt kidnap Holly for the sole purpose of getting the police to the house to call them, and get Skylar off the hook with his speech that fully implicated him and not her?
No, Walt kidnapped Holly because she was the only person in the house he could keep on his side and wanted to keep a part of his family. When he took her into the bathroom and she started asking for "mama", he realized what he was doing wouldn't work, she he decided to call the house, drop holly off at the fire station, and begin his redemption.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:09 am to DrSteveBrule
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One of the first 2 scenes of the next episode is more than likely going to be the conversation between Walt and Saul on his disappearance.
The next episode preview pretty much confirmed it.
Well just because he's in the episode doesn't mean Walt will kill him. Doesn't really seem like he has a need to although I suppose he could implicate Skylar or... have reason to kill Skylar to prevent her from implicating him.
Ah well, at least the Saul spinoff is a prequel!
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:09 am to The_Joker
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So did Walt kidnap Holly for the sole purpose of getting the police to the house to call them and get Skylar off the hook with his speech that fully implicated him and not her?
I'm thinking he was probably fully intent on taking Holly with him up until the "momma" scene. That's when Walt was like ehhh, let me do right by my family YET AGAIN, even when they are the ones fricking up.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:10 am to Roger Klarvin
What? Broke Bad? His bitch of a wife came at him with a knife. His retardo butt plug of a son managed to make up crap to the cops. Walt gave back his daughter. He tried to save Hank.
Tell me what Walt did to break even further bad besides admit to Jesse his past crime.
Skylar acting like a Saint had me shaking my head the entire time. I was hoping Walt would have shot her in the head.
Tell me what Walt did to break even further bad besides admit to Jesse his past crime.
Skylar acting like a Saint had me shaking my head the entire time. I was hoping Walt would have shot her in the head.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 12:14 am
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:11 am to Unknown_Poster
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Also I have read a lot of reports that real world Neo Nazi groups use meth to fund their ideological wars against the Cartels.
One theory I had was that the Nazis want a ton of money to fund some act of domestic terrorism and Walt (indirectly) setting them up with massive funding would mean his legacy is the death of hundreds if not thousands of innocent people. But I think that would probably go beyond the scope of the show. Especially now with only two episodes left.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 12:13 am
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:14 am to Unknown_Poster
Just finished the episode. I thought I was gonna have a heart attack it was so intense
I don't think I can handle it if it gets even more intense, jeebus
I don't think I can handle it if it gets even more intense, jeebus
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:14 am to Unknown_Poster
siap
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:14 am to Unknown_Poster
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One theory I had was that the Nazis want a ton of money to fund some act of domestic terrorism and Walt (indirectly) setting them up with massive funding would mean his legacy is the death of hundreds if not thousands of innocent people. But I think that would probably go beyond the scope of the show. Especially now with only two episodes left.
Again that may be the "reason" Walt returns, the Neo Nazi's go active with anti Cartel terrorism especially with the local DEA being shorthanded.
Another thing Merle on TWD was a Neo Nazi and was shown to possess Blue Sky in Georgia during the ZA. So do you think it was was Walt's or Todd's? And if so that confirms pretty much that they share universes.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 12:20 am
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:15 am to xraytech
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You got it wrong, he took the blame to save skylar.
Wow, you missed the point ENTIRELY.
Walt telling Jessie about Jane was his ultimate breaking bad moment. That was the most hateful, spiteful, premeditated act of evil he has performed. Yes, the murders were awful but they weren't personal. Walt was pure, 100% evil in that moment.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:19 am to Cajun Revolution
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What? Broke Bad? His bitch of a wife came at him with a knife. His retardo butt plug of a son managed to make up crap to the cops. Walt gave back his daughter. He tried to save Hank.
What he said to Jessie, whether you realize it or not, was intended to come across as his ultimate act of evil.
He may come full circle and redeem himself, but in that moment the series came to a head and showed just what a monster he has inside him. Nothing he had done before, not even the prisn murders, was as purely evil on a deep level like his "confession". He fully expected to have that be the final thing he ever said to Jessie.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 12:19 am
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:23 am to Roger Klarvin
What if instead of the Ricin, Walt comes back to get his revenge (knowing he is about dead anyway) and lets the Nazi's kill him. Boom, he has a wire on the whole time, the Nazi's all go to jail. His family's future is secure. Credits roll.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:25 am to DURANTULA
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Eh. I'm on the fence about that. It would seem a little suspicious of her to refuse police protection in that kind of situation.
How long will the police protect her? There's obviously a time lapse. She knows Walt wouldn't hurt her or their family. That's the only reason he did any of this.
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That's even more of a reason for her hand to be forced. She's completely unaware of their existence. Let's say she takes up the offer to leave her home and go stay with Marie. Marie is going through some shite too so Sky is going to want to comfort her bitch of a sister because that's just what Sky does and Flynn needs his breakfast.
So the NNs are getting Jesse to cook for them and are beating the hell out of him too to get information out of him as well. Let's assume he tells them about the tape. Where do you think they go next? Mind you, they have no idea about the whole situation with Walt blowing up at home.
Again, the "threat" at this point is Walt. I don't believe Skylar sees him as a threat, so she isn't going to worry about something else coming after them. With the obvious lapse in time, there won't be police around. The Nazis have shown the capability of dealing with that if it were an issue anyway.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 12:27 am to Roger Klarvin
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Walt telling Jessie about Jane was his ultimate breaking bad moment. That was the most hateful, spiteful, premeditated act of evil he has performed. Yes, the murders were awful but they weren't personal. Walt was pure, 100% evil in that moment.
Wrong again Sir. That wasn't his ultimate breaking break moment. Have you been watched the first 4 seasons ??? I'm sure he felt the death and the situation that had just occurred in the desert was jesse's fault and reacted out of anger.
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